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Sammo123

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2,170 posts

203 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Hey everyone.

I am really interested in getting into some form of motor racing. I dont have a huge budget and i'm not all that fussed about what class it is etc. I just want to go and race other people.

Can anyone suggest any series I could join that isnt going to cost me huge amounts of money.

Cheers

Sammo

Kickstart

1,108 posts

259 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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750MC stockhatch - but no motorsport is really cheap - it is relative

Scuffers

20,887 posts

296 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Kickstart said:
no motorsport is really cheap - it is relative
wise words..

Darkslider

3,084 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Stockhatch is probably one of the cheapest forms of circuit motorsport in real cars. There's been a fair few XR2s, 205s and Saxos built to 750mc spec with decent spares packages selling on ebay for less than a couple of grand. However the costs of entries, travelling, purchasing a trailer and towing vehicle can all add up pretty quick.


procomp

71 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Hi

Have a look at the 750Mc in general. It's full of championships with relative budget formulas Stock Hatch. Golf GTI. MR2's. VAG championship which includes diesel cars. And for the non saloon options there's Locost. RGB. Formula4. Formula Vee. All have similar entry fee's and value for money racing.

Cheers Matt

clubracing

372 posts

228 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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Having been at the same meetings as the brscc ma5da mx5 championship a couple of times this year, I have been really impressed. They have huge grids, look really good fun to race and are pretty cheap as well.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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doubt you'll have much change from 4 to 5 grand after a season racing in the majority of budget championships. This covers entry fee's, traveling and maintenance. ie ten round championship average entry fee is 200 quid, (2000) 100 quid in diesel getting to the circuit and race fuel (1000) it soon adds up

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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I've been sprinting for 5 years now, and this year I started properly keeping track of the costs. Excluding maintenance of the car and after 7 events and one shakedown, I've spent £2,148. That includes entry fees, TVRCC and TVRCC Speed Championship entry, MSA license fee, competition insurance, tow car costs (using the RAC pence-per-mile rate), B&B, burgers at events and sixteen thieving bd quid for the M6 toll. It doesn't include maintenance & upgrades for the car which would skew the figures considerably since I had an enormous amount of work done at the beginning of the year which included a top end rebuild for the engine, buying and fitting a race seat and a lot of work on the brakes and suspension which brings the costs up to £7,189. I imagine by the time I've done the remaining two events, I'll be looking at somewhere in the region of £7.5K.

Using a "wet finger in the air" figure of 10 minutes actual competition time per event, that works out at ~£80/minute. Like I said, there's no such thing as cheap motorsport!

lewis1

311 posts

210 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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Zumbruk said:
I've been sprinting for 5 years now, and this year I started properly keeping track of the costs. Excluding maintenance of the car and after 7 events and one shakedown, I've spent £2,148. That includes entry fees, TVRCC and TVRCC Speed Championship entry, MSA license fee, competition insurance, tow car costs (using the RAC pence-per-mile rate), B&B, burgers at events and sixteen thieving bd quid for the M6 toll. It doesn't include maintenance & upgrades for the car which would skew the figures considerably since I had an enormous amount of work done at the beginning of the year which included a top end rebuild for the engine, buying and fitting a race seat and a lot of work on the brakes and suspension which brings the costs up to £7,189. I imagine by the time I've done the remaining two events, I'll be looking at somewhere in the region of £7.5K.

Using a "wet finger in the air" figure of 10 minutes actual competition time per event, that works out at ~£80/minute. Like I said, there's no such thing as cheap motorsport!
and theres the exact reason i see no point in sprinting.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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lewis1 said:
Zumbruk said:
I've been sprinting for 5 years now, and this year I started properly keeping track of the costs. Excluding maintenance of the car and after 7 events and one shakedown, I've spent £2,148. That includes entry fees, TVRCC and TVRCC Speed Championship entry, MSA license fee, competition insurance, tow car costs (using the RAC pence-per-mile rate), B&B, burgers at events and sixteen thieving bd quid for the M6 toll. It doesn't include maintenance & upgrades for the car which would skew the figures considerably since I had an enormous amount of work done at the beginning of the year which included a top end rebuild for the engine, buying and fitting a race seat and a lot of work on the brakes and suspension which brings the costs up to £7,189. I imagine by the time I've done the remaining two events, I'll be looking at somewhere in the region of £7.5K.

Using a "wet finger in the air" figure of 10 minutes actual competition time per event, that works out at ~£80/minute. Like I said, there's no such thing as cheap motorsport!
and theres the exact reason i see no point in sprinting.
As you wish. The real problem is that to do "roundy roundy", let's say the TVR Tuscan Challenge, I'd need to spend another £5K on the car (full cage, extinguisher, interior strip) which would destroy any value it has as a road car (say £9K thrown away), or buy a proper race TVR. A season of the Tuscan Challenge costs about £10K if nothing goes wrong, which is 4 times what I spend at the moment. Yes, I'd love to do "proper" racing, but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money, and that's the end of it.

When you grow up a bit, you'll discover you have to cut the cloth to fit the circumstances.



Edited by Zumbruk on Sunday 16th August 17:49

lewis1

311 posts

210 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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cant help but think the cash you are spending could allow you alot more track time than you are having.
plus how are you throwing away 9k of road car? racing cars sell aswell you know.
I may only be 18 but it doesnt mean i know nothing.

Dan Friel

4,124 posts

300 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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lewis1 said:
plus how are you throwing away 9k of road car? racing cars sell aswell you know.
But not for the price of road cars.. hence why many caterham race cars get coverted into road versions.

lewis1

311 posts

210 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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Dan Friel said:
lewis1 said:
plus how are you throwing away 9k of road car? racing cars sell aswell you know.
But not for the price of road cars.. hence why many caterham race cars get coverted into road versions.
so he has a tvr road car,
You unbolt the seats and take the carpet out, put it in sealed bags and leave it in the loft. Then you buy a bolt in cage, An extinguisher, and a cut off switch.
Theres nothing that cannot be taken back off and sold on.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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No offence, but you will come to realise these things are nothing like as straightforward as you think. Racing my TVR would ruin it as a road car, even if I saved the "unneeded" bits. It would make more sense to sell it and buy a racer, but I don't want to sell it, and my Management isn't keen on me buying a racer as well. And going racing, although better value-for-money than sprinting, would nonetheless cost me 3 or 4 times what I spend on sprinting (and that's if I were lucky) which I cannot afford.

lewis1

311 posts

210 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Zumbruk said:
No offence, but you will come to realise these things are nothing like as straightforward as you think. Racing my TVR would ruin it as a road car, even if I saved the "unneeded" bits. It would make more sense to sell it and buy a racer, but I don't want to sell it, and my Management isn't keen on me buying a racer as well. And going racing, although better value-for-money than sprinting, would nonetheless cost me 3 or 4 times what I spend on sprinting (and that's if I were lucky) which I cannot afford.
thats what i was getting at. That Racing is more bang for dollar. Although we all realise it costs more than racing. Sorry if i confused people. Nice tvr too btw!

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Now, if you could arrange for a decent size lottery win ...

smile

lewis1

311 posts

210 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Zumbruk said:
Now, if you could arrange for a decent size lottery win ...

smile
I will try my best, Fancy a jamun Formula ford drive next year

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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lewis1 said:
Zumbruk said:
Now, if you could arrange for a decent size lottery win ...

smile
I will try my best, Fancy a jamun Formula ford drive next year
No, no. Not for you. For *me*.

smile

peter.brown

29 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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peter.brown said:
motor sport vision open sports quaii 2 2ominute races 100quid ring david willey 01474875202
Except it's £250.

At least according to the entry form at http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/46759/entry%20for...