Bike trainers
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illmonkey

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19,619 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Anyone bother with these? After last weeks summer rain I thought this would be good to have about for when its raining and throughout the winter.

Something like this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/CycleOps_Mag_Tra...

Slap it in the garage, put the radio on for an hour, good workout? or not worth it?

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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I had a cheap 'n' cheerful Elite air fan jobbie for a couple of years and it wasn't much fun to use - it was also hideously noisy. Last winter I upgraded to a Kurt Kinetic fluid trainer - which is fantastic.

Good quality trainer + laptop + Coach Troy Spinervals DVD = good session.

Learn to love Coach Troy.

illmonkey

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19,619 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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I should probably add, its a mountain bike. Don't know if it'll make a difference.

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Not really - best to invest in a slick and, if you're lazy like me, a cheap wheel to run it on - you don't need the brakes to work, so it doesn't matter if you have a rim-brake wheel on a disc-brake bike etc.

You do need a bike computer with both cadence and speedo - and getting speed sensors to work on the rear wheels of MTBs can be a pain because of the huge clearances between stays and spokes, but it's do-able: my wife's Focus hardtail is on my turbo at the moment.

b2hbm

1,301 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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yep, turbo trainers are one of those love/hate things.

You hate 'em because it gets very boring, even with some inspiring sounds on your MP3 player. You love 'em because you can train when it's raining/hailing/snowing and keep your fitness over winter so you have a good start in the spring. They're also good for hard intervals, it's much safer to go flat out in your garage on one of those than it is on the road; you can concentrate on the effort without bothering about traffic.

The cheap air-fan ones are noisy so I'd avoid a really cheap one. I've had 2 magnetic ones and they're much better because they're quieter and you can vary the resistances. Oil ones also get good write-ups, my mate has one and uses it regularly without upsetting his neighbours (terraced house)

Marcellus

7,193 posts

242 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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When I started to use a turbo I was told to make sure I did something every 2 minutes.... be it change gear, change hand position, change cadence anything just do something otherwise it gets too boring!!

That said if you can't get out onto the road it is a great way to build fitness...

illmonkey

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19,619 posts

221 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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I'm all up for building muscles, but I'm primarily looking to lose (belly) weight. Cycling is about the only exercise I enjoy, even if it was in my garage watching raid.

Marcellus

7,193 posts

242 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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There are some great turbo programmes here;

http://www.thesprocket.co.uk/blog/training-downloa...

I print and laminate them and put them on the floor in front of the bike!

P-Jay

11,260 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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A mate of mine swears by them. I don't think rain would stop me riding though....

I was thinking of one of these to use whilst I'm recovering, but I learned my local lesuire centre had just had a load of MTB Simulators delivered, I've not seem them yet but I'm looking forward to rocking up in my torn/worn riding kit and a big brace on my arm and scaring the gym types.

rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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SO BORING... oh and they hurt your arse after about 45 minutes. The oil based ones are the best in terms of noise and smoothness but nothing beats getting out on the road.

A mate of mine has this baby which links to your TV and swears by it. You can ride all the alpine climbs and he doesn't get bored by it so maybe it's me.

http://www.tacx.com/producten.php?language=EN&...


Parsnip

3,210 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Got a tacx flow which is cracking for during the winter - pretty boring, but it has to be done i guess.

Brilliant for intervals sessions, brilliant for keeping the power up when the weather is crap.

Cycling when the weather is crap doesn't make you hard, it makes you ill.

rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Parsnip said:
Got a tacx flow which is cracking for during the winter - pretty boring, but it has to be done i guess.

Brilliant for intervals sessions, brilliant for keeping the power up when the weather is crap.

Cycling when the weather is crap doesn't make you hard, it makes you ill.
That depends how hard you are. If you're hard you won't get ill! biggrin

Master Mischief

630 posts

233 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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illmonkey said:
Anyone bother with these? After last weeks summer rain I thought this would be good to have about for when its raining and throughout the winter.

Something like this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/CycleOps_Mag_Tra...

Slap it in the garage, put the radio on for an hour, good workout? or not worth it?
Nick_F said:
I had a cheap 'n' cheerful Elite air fan jobbie for a couple of years and it wasn't much fun to use - it was also hideously noisy. Last winter I upgraded to a Kurt Kinetic fluid trainer - which is fantastic.

Good quality trainer + laptop + Coach Troy Spinervals DVD = good session.

Learn to love Coach Troy.
I went straight in for a Kurt Kinetic with a continental turbo trainer specific MTB tyre and it is really quiet and smooth. Unfortunately about a month later my mate bought a decent front light and I followed suit. Night rides replaced the TT before I even began to get into it.

I bought it new and have barely used it as, realistically, it is not my thing. You may find that it is not your thing either so maybe look second hand so you don't lose as much as I no doubt will.

Mine is not actively for sale as I MAY use it again in the future and I cannot be arsed to run the risk and hassle of Ebay but feel free to PM me if you think you may want it. I am happy to do a simple sale and arrange a courier (it is in the original box).


ChampionsSwagger

348 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th August 2009
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I bought a tacx fortius and its 'kin brilliant.

When i first bought it i rode it till my c0ck went numb (20mins at 160 watts)

Now I still ride till my c0ck goes numb, but that's now after an hour and half at 240 watts and im still only halfway up Mont Ventoux!!!

Expensive but bloody good - mate just got an ebay one at £280, bastid!

illmonkey

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19,619 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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So, looking into this as its now dark when I get home!

I'd get this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

Any cheaper ones worth looking at? £300 to see if i'd bother doing it seems alot.

And I need a special tyre for the back? I've got my old bike I'll be using with this, so I don't need a spare wheel. Anything else? Just the trainer and the tyre?

Any links for the tyre required?

I'd also like a computer to measure speed/time etc. Is it best to just use my normal computer and try to get it working on the back wheel?

Edited by illmonkey on Tuesday 27th October 11:46

Parsnip

3,210 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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You don't need a turbo tyre - but it will wreck a normal tyre, so if you don't use the wheel for anything else, you are golden.

Comp on the back wheel will work - wireless might not be strong enough to reach your bars though - so you might need to move the head unit.

A rubber yoga mat is a good purchase too - deadens the sound a bit and stops you getting the floor manky with sweat. Get a decent fan, as you will sweat your tits off.

khushy

3,973 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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get some rollers - they are much more fun and concentrate the mind!

khushy

illmonkey

Original Poster:

19,619 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Parsnip said:
You don't need a turbo tyre - but it will wreck a normal tyre, so if you don't use the wheel for anything else, you are golden.

Comp on the back wheel will work - wireless might not be strong enough to reach your bars though - so you might need to move the head unit.

A rubber yoga mat is a good purchase too - deadens the sound a bit and stops you getting the floor manky with sweat. Get a decent fan, as you will sweat your tits off.
The tyre is wrecked already. So maybe I'll run it for a month and see how it goes.

Its going in the garage (not attached to any house), so I'm not worried about noise etc. But It seems a good idea to give it a bit more grip??

Again, in the garage, so i'll open the door for air. At least the rain wont come in.

illmonkey

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19,619 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Looking into it a bit more, I think a fluid is best, as it has good resistance. So in light of this, I've found this product.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cycleops/fluid...

A good price for a brand spanking new one. Looks like I can chuck my old bike on it with its current tyres too. Mixed reviews online, seem to be a few breaking soon after purchase, but other than that people think they are good.

Roman

2,033 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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I find spin classes so much more . . . 'scenic'

Are there any not too pricey PC programmes where you can hook up a turbo trainer to record your performance or even better - race your mate online?