Kenny MacAskill
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SportsLibre said:
At least he stood up the Americans and stood by his principles.
Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Exactly!Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Damned if he does
Damned if he doesn't
750turbo said:
SportsLibre said:
At least he stood up the Americans and stood by his principles.
Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Exactly!Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Damned if he does
Damned if he doesn't
I made this observation in news and politics "At least Kenny MacAskill can reflect happily on the fact tonight he isn't the US's poodle - unlike anybody, irrespective of party, of leads UK government."
physprof said:
750turbo said:
SportsLibre said:
At least he stood up the Americans and stood by his principles.
Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Exactly!Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Damned if he does
Damned if he doesn't
I made this observation in news and politics "At least Kenny MacAskill can reflect happily on the fact tonight he isn't the US's poodle - unlike anybody, irrespective of party, of leads UK government."
I was actually embarrassed watching the news last night seeing Scotland flags waved as this convicted murderer arrived in Libya.
P.S. Dont forget this is the same goverment that shook hands on a deal with American entrepeneur Donald Trump against the wishes of the scottish people. That i actually supported as it brought jobs to the area BUT anyone thinking that Alex & Co are not courting America needs to wake up.
Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 21st August 11:05
Wanta996Gotta said:
physprof said:
750turbo said:
SportsLibre said:
At least he stood up the Americans and stood by his principles.
Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Exactly!Other politicians would probably just fold and say "anything you want Hillary!"
Only the USA would expect other countries to ignore the due process of Law and just do what they want.
Damned if he does
Damned if he doesn't
I made this observation in news and politics "At least Kenny MacAskill can reflect happily on the fact tonight he isn't the US's poodle - unlike anybody, irrespective of party, of leads UK government."
I was actually embarrassed watching the news last night seeing Scotland flags waved as this convicted murderer arrived in Libya.
P.S. Dont forget this is the same goverment that shook hands on a deal with American entrepeneur Donald Trump against the wishes of the scottish people. That i actually supported as it brought jobs to the area BUT anyone thinking that Alex & Co are not courting America needs to wake up.
Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 21st August 11:05
P.S. Dont forget this is the same goverment that shook hands on a deal with American entrepeneur Donald Trump against the wishes of the scottish people.
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I would argue that the Trump deal was not against the wishes of the scottish people.
The compulsary purchases, well thats a different matter.
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I would argue that the Trump deal was not against the wishes of the scottish people.
The compulsary purchases, well thats a different matter.
I'm afraid the Trump thing is against the wishes of the people, I live in the village he wants to bulldoze and he has already tried to force the locals off of the beach and will use the law to force people out of houses they have lived in for decades. Fair enough compulsory purchase orders for building national municiple things but not for private business.
statts1976uk said:
I'm afraid the Trump thing is against the wishes of the people, I live in the village he wants to bulldoze and he has already tried to force the locals off of the beach and will use the law to force people out of houses they have lived in for decades. Fair enough compulsory purchase orders for building national municiple things but not for private business.
It's true, Aberdeenshire is famous for inward looking NIMBY'ism and lack of progression!Trump: I wanna come over and spend a £billion on your community, wind-swept beach/dunes build houses, provide jobs, tourism, and general long-term prosperity for the area in the face of a dwindling oil industry and general economic downturn. Whadya say, friend?
Locals: Fiiiiiiit? f
k right off min! Fa' dae ye think ye ur, wi yur money an' yur jobs an sic?The same attitude that has held up the Aberdeen Bypass for nigh-on 20 f
kin' years! 
jshell said:
statts1976uk said:
I'm afraid the Trump thing is against the wishes of the people, I live in the village he wants to bulldoze and he has already tried to force the locals off of the beach and will use the law to force people out of houses they have lived in for decades. Fair enough compulsory purchase orders for building national municiple things but not for private business.
It's true, Aberdeenshire is famous for inward looking NIMBY'ism and lack of progression!Trump: I wanna come over and spend a £billion on your community, wind-swept beach/dunes build houses, provide jobs, tourism, and general long-term prosperity for the area in the face of a dwindling oil industry and general economic downturn. Whadya say, friend?
Locals: Fiiiiiiit? f
k right off min! Fa' dae ye think ye ur, wi yur money an' yur jobs an sic?The same attitude that has held up the Aberdeen Bypass for nigh-on 20 f
kin' years! Trump: 'I want to come over and make myself some serious $$$ cashing in on the Aberdeenshire property market (although I may have missed the boat a bit now) and in the process have total disregard for the local community, planning application process and an ecosystem of international significance. I'll bang on about investing in the local community and tourism benefit but, deep down, I know I'm talking out of my @rse.'
Locals (the enlightened ones): Aye, that'll be shining bright...
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... 
The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it.jshell said:
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it.
You think we can design something better than nature?!?! Playing God always ends up in the same outcome...ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it. You think we can design something better than nature?!?! Playing God always ends up in the same outcome...ks. That whole coastline is practically deserted, I'm sure they can re-locate any special species of grass or voles or frogs or anything else... It's just dunes, like any other part of the coast between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. After all, the Championship course just North of the Brig 'O Don hasn't upset the lentil-knitters. There's others further up too. They want to build cultured championship golf-courses, houses, hotels and shops on an area that is hardly used. They're not building a coal-fired power station, smelter or oil terminal. It's a huge boost for the area, it'll bring in masive inward investment to an area that has the sq root of fk all except a bloody great netted-over landfill site.They're the laughing-stock of Scotland, quite frankly.
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it. You think we can design something better than nature?!?! Playing God always ends up in the same outcome...ks. That whole coastline is practically deserted, I'm sure they can re-locate any special species of grass or voles or frogs or anything else... It's just dunes, like any other part of the coast between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. After all, the Championship course just North of the Brig 'O Don hasn't upset the lentil-knitters. There's others further up too. They want to build cultured championship golf-courses, houses, hotels and shops on an area that is hardly used. They're not building a coal-fired power station, smelter or oil terminal. It's a huge boost for the area, it'll bring in masive inward investment to an area that has the sq root of fk all except a bloody great netted-over landfill site.They're the laughing-stock of Scotland, quite frankly.
ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it. You think we can design something better than nature?!?! Playing God always ends up in the same outcome...ks. That whole coastline is practically deserted, I'm sure they can re-locate any special species of grass or voles or frogs or anything else... It's just dunes, like any other part of the coast between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. After all, the Championship course just North of the Brig 'O Don hasn't upset the lentil-knitters. There's others further up too. They want to build cultured championship golf-courses, houses, hotels and shops on an area that is hardly used. They're not building a coal-fired power station, smelter or oil terminal. It's a huge boost for the area, it'll bring in masive inward investment to an area that has the sq root of fk all except a bloody great netted-over landfill site.They're the laughing-stock of Scotland, quite frankly.
I don't see anyone whinging about the long term effect of St Fergus terminal just up the coast in the same environment...
I do know that when I speak to people about it in other parts of Scotland they tend to just shake their heads and wonder what the f
k goes through folks heads.I know the development has got it's down-sides, but Aberdeen is a one-horse town. American tourists don't come over and say: 'Let's go to Balmedie.' They go to Edinburgh, Stirling, Royal Deeside, Distilleries, Loch Ness and the Highlands.
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
jshell said:
ViperScot said:
....an ecosystem of international significance.... .
Balmedie? WTF? You lost it there...... The first anyone thought of Balmedie as an 'ecosystem of international significance' was when Trump turned up. I've spent a lot of time up there and my old shooting club is just along the beach. It's patronised by a few locals, or on a nice day people from Aberdeen may go for a walk there and it's certainly a meeting place for many an illicit afair, but be honest - it could be developed into something much, much nicer....
It's like the t
t who held out against the A90 Dualling, or the people holding out against the bypass. I'm sorry, but if a few have to suffer so that Brig 'O Dee, Anderson Drive and that fking 'Haud-up-again' roundabout isn't like the M25 on a bad day, then so be it. You think we can design something better than nature?!?! Playing God always ends up in the same outcome...ks. That whole coastline is practically deserted, I'm sure they can re-locate any special species of grass or voles or frogs or anything else... It's just dunes, like any other part of the coast between Aberdeen and Fraserburgh. After all, the Championship course just North of the Brig 'O Don hasn't upset the lentil-knitters. There's others further up too. They want to build cultured championship golf-courses, houses, hotels and shops on an area that is hardly used. They're not building a coal-fired power station, smelter or oil terminal. It's a huge boost for the area, it'll bring in masive inward investment to an area that has the sq root of fk all except a bloody great netted-over landfill site.They're the laughing-stock of Scotland, quite frankly.
I don't see anyone whinging about the long term effect of St Fergus terminal just up the coast in the same environment...
I do know that when I speak to people about it in other parts of Scotland they tend to just shake their heads and wonder what the f
k goes through folks heads.I know the development has got it's down-sides, but Aberdeen is a one-horse town. American tourists don't come over and say: 'Let's go to Balmedie.' They go to Edinburgh, Stirling, Royal Deeside, Distilleries, Loch Ness and the Highlands.
And, actually, there has been quite a lot of concern about St Fergus and there's been tonnes of research done on the 'winter loch' there. But a power station has more benefit to the community that some rich to$$er's golfing business venture...
And a couple more golf courses will not get away from the fact that, in terms of tourism, Aberdeen and the surrounding area is, to be frank, rubbish.
ViperScot said:
An ecosystem isn't about one or even a few specific species, it's about the sum of it's parts and the interaction of species with their environment. A unique ecosystem cannot be moved to somewhere else.
Aah, you had me fooled there, since you drive a Viper your environmental concern is now justifiably in doubt... 
ViperScot said:
And, actually, there has been quite a lot of concern about St Fergus and there's been tonnes of research done on the 'winter loch' there. But a power station has more benefit to the community that some rich to$$er's golfing business venture...
That's what it's about, you're worried you won't get membership! (Sorry that's a joke) St Fergus doesn't bring in tourists that may still come after the terminal is loooong gone.ViperScot said:
And a couple more golf courses will not get away from the fact that, in terms of tourism, Aberdeen and the surrounding area is, to be frank, rubbish.
Aberdeen is rubbish for many reasons. It's only when you move from there that you really realise just how much! 
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