Comparing 7 type cars for track day fun
Discussion
I’ve had a Westfield for 3 or 4 years now. And am using it more and more on track days.
I’m thinking of a change, both for something more track day focussed, and also because I’ve had this car for a while now and just fancy a change.
Just interested in the opinions of guys who have had experience of different 7 type cars.
Westfields seem to command the highest price, with a like for like spec.
There seems to be quite a few nearly new MNR Vortexs for sale regularly, is this a good or bad thing ?
My car is Vauxhall red top engined, ford 5 sp gear box. Fancy the idea of a bike engine car, mainly for the sequential box.
I have been looking at Westfields, MNRs Vortex, MK Indys and Mac1. But no real preference for any manufacturer.
If budget were no issue, I’d probably look at a Caterham R400/500, but £20k+ is more than I want to invest in something to just thrash round a track then stick in the garage over the winter.
I’m thinking of a change, both for something more track day focussed, and also because I’ve had this car for a while now and just fancy a change.
Just interested in the opinions of guys who have had experience of different 7 type cars.
Westfields seem to command the highest price, with a like for like spec.
There seems to be quite a few nearly new MNR Vortexs for sale regularly, is this a good or bad thing ?
My car is Vauxhall red top engined, ford 5 sp gear box. Fancy the idea of a bike engine car, mainly for the sequential box.
I have been looking at Westfields, MNRs Vortex, MK Indys and Mac1. But no real preference for any manufacturer.
If budget were no issue, I’d probably look at a Caterham R400/500, but £20k+ is more than I want to invest in something to just thrash round a track then stick in the garage over the winter.
Sam_68 said:
Bi22le said:
A R1 \ GSXR \ ZX10 powered kit car is about the same as a Caterham R300. For R500 speeds you need an R500.
EFA.
That's true enough.
Caterhams in general tend to have a higher-than-usual proportion of 'all the gear, no idea' types amongst their owners, but it would take a hell of a BEC 7 to lap a circuit faster than a current R500 in the hands of someone who does know how to drive it!
Not saying it can't be done, but if you think that any 'Seven' type kit with a stock 'Busa engine in it will be able to compete with an R500 driven by someone of equal ability, then you're in for a nasty shock!
Caterhams in general tend to have a higher-than-usual proportion of 'all the gear, no idea' types amongst their owners, but it would take a hell of a BEC 7 to lap a circuit faster than a current R500 in the hands of someone who does know how to drive it!
Not saying it can't be done, but if you think that any 'Seven' type kit with a stock 'Busa engine in it will be able to compete with an R500 driven by someone of equal ability, then you're in for a nasty shock!
Sam_68 said:
That's true enough.
Caterhams in general tend to have a higher-than-usual proportion of 'all the gear, no idea' types amongst their owners, but it would take a hell of a BEC 7 to lap a circuit faster than a current R500 in the hands of someone who does know how to drive it!
Not saying it can't be done, but if you think that any 'Seven' type kit with a stock 'Busa engine in it will be able to compete with an R500 driven by someone of equal ability, then you're in for a nasty shock!
You're right, an R500 driven by somebody competent should beat a busa 7. Mine would blitz an R500 but would need to stop for petrol on the fourth lap so allowing the R500 to get past Caterhams in general tend to have a higher-than-usual proportion of 'all the gear, no idea' types amongst their owners, but it would take a hell of a BEC 7 to lap a circuit faster than a current R500 in the hands of someone who does know how to drive it!
Not saying it can't be done, but if you think that any 'Seven' type kit with a stock 'Busa engine in it will be able to compete with an R500 driven by someone of equal ability, then you're in for a nasty shock!
You would want to take a good look at how sturdy any of these cars would be in a prang, I'm running a Westfield with a full cage on it for trackdays and saw another se7en virtually fold in half at Anglesey a couple of moths ago. It went of on a slow-medium speed corner and int a wall with the kind of impact that I would expect to walk away from and they had to cut the guy out with cracked ribs . I've taken a look at some other se7ens with full cages and they have been mounted to floor panels or bolted to thin tube frames with little or no bracing - not nice at all.
Also worth thinking that if you fancy a sequential you can always get one to fit to your current car......
. I've taken a look at some other se7ens with full cages and they have been mounted to floor panels or bolted to thin tube frames with little or no bracing - not nice at all.Also worth thinking that if you fancy a sequential you can always get one to fit to your current car......
Keep looking at MNRs, theres a few nice looking ones in the classifides. ANyone got exprerience of these. Havent come across one omn atrack day yet.
t11ner - Think I must have been at Anglesey on the same day as yourself. Was there when the guy smashed his green and silver 7 type into the pit wall. Your not the guy in the Blue and Silver Westfield are you ? I was in a red Westfield. I'm also thinking a full cage is the way to go on what ever I go for next.
Cheers, Garry
t11ner - Think I must have been at Anglesey on the same day as yourself. Was there when the guy smashed his green and silver 7 type into the pit wall. Your not the guy in the Blue and Silver Westfield are you ? I was in a red Westfield. I'm also thinking a full cage is the way to go on what ever I go for next.
Cheers, Garry
Marc (Marc Norden Racing) is a ex BTCC racer they did dabble in RGB a couple of seasons back, don't think they have raced recently, could be wrong on that one though as I have lost contact with RGB scene since I ran out of £££'s myself.
MNR's are very capable track toys though, as is the Indy R.
MNR's are very capable track toys though, as is the Indy R.
TIVVA said:
Keep looking at MNRs, theres a few nice looking ones in the classifides. ANyone got exprerience of these. Havent come across one omn atrack day yet.
t11ner - Think I must have been at Anglesey on the same day as yourself. Was there when the guy smashed his green and silver 7 type into the pit wall. Your not the guy in the Blue and Silver Westfield are you ? I was in a red Westfield. I'm also thinking a full cage is the way to go on what ever I go for next.
Cheers, Garry
I was in this one - t11ner - Think I must have been at Anglesey on the same day as yourself. Was there when the guy smashed his green and silver 7 type into the pit wall. Your not the guy in the Blue and Silver Westfield are you ? I was in a red Westfield. I'm also thinking a full cage is the way to go on what ever I go for next.
Cheers, Garry
The cage was fitted by Procomp, excellent service
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