V8S - always a limited slip diff?
V8S - always a limited slip diff?
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JoePublic

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220 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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Quick question ...I know the S3s vary, but did all the V8Ss have LSDs? And if so, which one?

Last S4

504 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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I am sure all the V8S cars had an LSD but I dont know what type.
The quickest way to check is to jack up the back wheels - manually rotate one side and if the other wheel turns in the same direction its an LSD. If the other wheel turns in the opposite direction its not an LSD. You dont need the car in gear to do this.

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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The S4 and V8S all had LSDs but they were the chocolate fireguard viscous type which allows loads of wheelspin at low speed, so you could be forgiven for thinking they had an open diff or that the LSD bit had worn out.

phillpot

17,511 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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GreenV8S said:
The S4 and V8S all had LSDs but they were the chocolate fireguard viscous type which allows loads of wheelspin at low speed, so you could be forgiven for thinking they had an open diff or that the LSD bit had worn out.
So are you saying, in your experience/opinion, not worth the trouble or expense of fitting one ( ex Cosworth Scorpio for example ) to an S3 ?

Edited by phillpot on Wednesday 26th August 20:25

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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My V8S with a viscous diff handled distinctly better at medium/high speed than the open diffed S2 that I had previously. But at low speed the traction out of corners was still poor. I've got a conventional friction plate diff now and it's better all round. If you're considering an LSD, don't bother with the viscous rubbish but definitely do go for a friction plate one.

phillpot

17,511 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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Thanks, appreciate the advice, but of course "proper" friction plate LSD's are just little more expensive ?

Like most things in life, guess you get what you pay for ! yes

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Wednesday 26th August 2009
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phillpot said:
Thanks, appreciate the advice, but of course "proper" friction plate LSD's are just little more expensive ?

Like most things in life, guess you get what you pay for ! yes
Actually friction diffs are far more common as LSDs go, funny that since they work so much better. It was very difficult to track down a replacement for the viscous one, and it turned out to be from some German Ford or other iirc.

JoePublic

Original Poster:

220 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th August 2009
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Last S4 said:
The quickest way to check is to jack up the back wheels - manually rotate one side and if the other wheel turns in the same direction its an LSD. If the other wheel turns in the opposite direction its not an LSD. You dont need the car in gear to do this.
Doesn't that depend on the type of LSD? Off the top of my head I can think of three different systems - gear driven (Quaife ATB style), mechanical ramp (or plate type) which seems to be most common and the viscous units, some of which can unlock over time.

Last S4

504 posts

215 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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JoePublic said:
Last S4 said:
The quickest way to check is to jack up the back wheels - manually rotate one side and if the other wheel turns in the same direction its an LSD. If the other wheel turns in the opposite direction its not an LSD. You dont need the car in gear to do this.
Doesn't that depend on the type of LSD? Off the top of my head I can think of three different systems - gear driven (Quaife ATB style), mechanical ramp (or plate type) which seems to be most common and the viscous units, some of which can unlock over time.
If the diff unlocks over time its not working as an LSD then.

zombeh

695 posts

217 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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JoePublic said:
Last S4 said:
The quickest way to check is to jack up the back wheels - manually rotate one side and if the other wheel turns in the same direction its an LSD. If the other wheel turns in the opposite direction its not an LSD. You dont need the car in gear to do this.
Doesn't that depend on the type of LSD? Off the top of my head I can think of three different systems - gear driven (Quaife ATB style), mechanical ramp (or plate type) which seems to be most common and the viscous units, some of which can unlock over time.
The wheels will spin opposite directions on a torque biasing diff like a quaife or torsen and can spin the same way on an open diff if there's something wrong with it.

The only way to be absolutely certain what's inside is to take the cover off and look.