Oh b****cks!
Oh b****cks!
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SamPet

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485 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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1 month into ownership and have been told I need a new camshaft.

I'm not sure I can take this frown

Mark UB

2,312 posts

208 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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how many miles has it done and who has told you this?

heightswitch

6,322 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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a Camshaft and follower replacement typically costs about £800 - £1000 if you have to pay someone to do it.

camshafts typically need to be replaced at 45 - 50k miles on an average use Griff or Chim.

This is primarily because a Rover V8 was built with 150hp and a griffith TVR V8 has double!!

Double the power generally means half the cam life.

what are you worrying about my diesel Audi has just cost £450 for a basic service!!

N.


Edited by heightswitch on Saturday 29th August 12:11

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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I fail to see how the increase in power determines the life of the cam?

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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rigga said:
I fail to see how the increase in power determines the life of the cam?
More power requires more lift, which in turn requires more spring presures, the 500 also runs slightly heavier valves, again more grief for the cam, and lastly the actual profile of the cam will try and let the follower/tappet try and dig into the cam.

jasoncook

90 posts

313 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Its the fact that the cam slams open and shuts the valves with some heavy valve springs to boot. The standard cam is a lot more gentle with a smoother lift as its not as high. You can get a cam kitt ie everything you will need apart from oil and filter and sump gasket from V8 developments for about £375 and i believe they do a fitting service.

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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v8 racing said:
rigga said:
I fail to see how the increase in power determines the life of the cam?
More power requires more lift, which in turn requires more spring presures, the 500 also runs slightly heavier valves, again more grief for the cam, and lastly the actual profile of the cam will try and let the follower/tappet try and dig into the cam.
My knowledge is now expanded a tad more....cheers smile

deeen

6,406 posts

274 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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SamPet said:
1 month into ownership and have been told I need a new camshaft.

I'm not sure I can take this frown
This is great news, it's an opportunity to choose from the range of cams available and tailor your car for your preferences / begin your never-ending programme of upgrades (delete according to budget)

slideways

4,101 posts

250 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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deeen said:
SamPet said:
1 month into ownership and have been told I need a new camshaft.

I'm not sure I can take this frown
This is great news, it's an opportunity to choose from the range of cams available and tailor your car for your preferences / begin your never-ending programme of upgrades (delete according to budget)
+1 yes if your cam has gone it would probably have been down on power that you may not have noticed in a month of ownership get it done if you can! you will be grinning again with all that regained power

Robrine

124 posts

210 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Sorry for the thread hijack, but can Rob (v8 racing) get in touch about the cam he fitted recently. Dont worry Rob, its not a complaint, she's running like a dream! Tried your email and Pm'd you, thought my messages might be going to your spam folder again.

cheers Rob.

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

282 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Sam, it's a real bummer, mine went 3 weeks after I bought it in June last year, I lost three lobes on the cam. Car had done 52k miles but it was the oil pick up pipe that had become detached. Other problems are oil starvation, when the oil pick up strainer gets clogged, with excess silicon sealant from when the factory fitted the sump, they didn't use cork gaskets!
I had V8D do my rebuild, with one of Rob's (V8 Racing) stealth cams fitted, that is some cam profile!!! tractable around town, manic on the open road biggrin

I also had the all steel rocker gear fitted, plus having the cylinder block liners replaced with stepped liners, new pistons, rings, bearings, oil pump, cross bolted and balanced bottom end, head ported, intake matched and ACT intake and water hoses fitted, also had the silicon engine mounts from SC Power.

I now know that the engine will not have all of the issues that pop up on here so depressingly regularly.

As one of the previous posters mentioned look on it as your opportunity to have the cam of your choice fitted but consider the other elements such as liners.

Good luck

YB

Edited by Yellabelly on Sunday 30th August 23:27

Mark UB

2,312 posts

208 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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70,000+ miles, loads of TDs, loads of V maxs, and it's still banging out 280+ bhp 330+ lb ft.



still on original cam and engine, it's only ever needed a rocker and valley gasket.

mind you mine has it's oil changed every 2k.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Mark UB said:
70,000+ miles, loads of TDs, loads of V maxs, and it's still banging out 280+ bhp 330+ lb ft.



still on original cam and engine, it's only ever needed a rocker and valley gasket.

mind you mine has it's oil changed every 2k.
My last 390SE lasted 7000 miles from new before it ran an exhaust cam lobe. Vive la difference as they say in Peckham.

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

225 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Hi Everyone

Thanks for all your comments.

I took the Griff to Tom @ TH Works who took it for a spin and said that it sounded like "there's no cam left"- oh dear!

He gave me various options on cam, but since I live in London, and I need her to behave in traffic, I went for a standard profile cam supplied by Kent cams (IIRC).

The Griff has only done 22k miles furious

He took a look over the rest of the car and said it had the best chassis he'd seen in a long time "as new", which is some relief.

I'm not sure I can give specific details of cost, but the cam change parts and associated labour etc comes in under £2000.

I had noticed a drop in power as the noise had increased so I'm looking forward to the increase in power after the work.

Concerning the previous owner, I'm not sure... He was a decent guy and was honest with me (although the cam wasnt mentioned), but did say that the car had been given a going over presale by Kerridges TVR and they'd said it was good.

I'm not sure I'm up for giving him an ear-full, unless you think it's out of order.

I'll update this thread with news


Edit... I've just searched a few threads and it seems that this could be quite £££ compared to what some people have paid. I'm going to get Tom to give me breakdown of what work he'd going to do. If it's standard cam swap, it'll probably go to V8D instead!

Sam

Edited by SamPet on Monday 31st August 18:59

dhf

1,103 posts

223 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Sounds expensive...YHM

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

225 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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dhf said:
Sounds expensive...YHM
Replied...thanks

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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UPDATE!!!

I spoke to Tom @ THWorks and I have been told the following:

The total cost, as detailed before includes, Kent 218, Vernier gear, followers, valve springs, valves refaces, head reskimmed and a couple of other bits and bobs....

...seems pretty thorough to me. Waddya think?

Sam

pwd95

8,457 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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The heads don't need to come off. Cam, followers, vernier chain etc all installed should be no more than £1k. Give V8 Developments a call. yes

SamPet

Original Poster:

485 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Would he need to reskim the head as I was suffering from detonation as well?

Seems unlikely?!?

Wildfire

9,948 posts

281 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Obviously it is better to go for a head rebuild. But if you don't want to, I'm sure Tom will just switch the cam out. I'm planning on having him do mine as soon as finances allow. Probably a Kent 218 or V8D MC1.