Grip Matters
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Buzz word

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2,028 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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I have just got back from the gym and I annoyed myself a bit. Today I do my dead lifts and was comfortable with 105kg*5 so had a little go at 110kg. After 3 reps the bar pretty much fell out my hand as I couldn't grip anymore. I feel like I have more left in me and have found if I pick the bar up badly and pinch index finger on my gloves spare thumb material I can lift far more easily. So I know I have more there but grip is becoming a limitation.

I don't want to go down the lifting strap route as it won't fix my weak spot. What I'm getting to is what are some good grip exercises? Also are things like gripmaster's or any other of the springy gadgets any good as I could easily use those at work and like that idea as its a bit more gym time efficient.

Animal

5,553 posts

284 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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1) Try rest-pause: when your grip fails during a set, put the bar down and take a 10-15 second rest before going again. You may only get a rep or two more, but you'll be strengthening your grip.

2) Ever tried a Farmer's Walk? Grab two heavy dumbbells and just walk up and down (might need to find a quiet corridor for this one), making sure you hold on until your grip fails. Rest for no more than 30 seconds and go again. A couple of these every other workout will help.

3) Static hang from a chin-up bar.

4) Hold a plate with a pinch grip (fingers only) for as long as possible. Gradually increase the time then the weight.

Best,

Animal

Dale19

520 posts

208 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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No gadgets needed.

Chalk

Mixed grip

You`ll be sorted.

Throw some static holds in on the last rep and your grip should stay ahead of your deadlift for a good while to come.

Buzz word

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2,028 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Cheers guys. I like the idea of the farmers walk as it seems like the style of grip being used.

A couple of questions though. Mixing grip, what do you mean? using alternate grip?

Also, if you recommend chalk would it be better to be doing this gloveless? I currently lift with gloves but I don't think losing them will be an issue as I hold the bar more with my finger than in the palm.

Dale19

520 posts

208 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Yes one over one under, alternate which you have over and under too, and focus on keeping your arms completely straight.

Ditch the gloves mate, think about it, your increasing the diameter of the bar, and allowing slip, your hands will toughen up within a couple of session, and you can keep on top of calouses with a knife and moisturiser if you wish. Loosing the gloves will help no end. You wont regret it.

http://stronglifts.com/7-tips-to-improve-your-grip...

That picture shows how to set your grip up, and in general theres good advice on there, only thing i`d ignore, is where it says use double overhand untill you cant any more, imo its a waste of energy and will hamper your heavier sets.

ewenm

28,506 posts

261 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Take up rock climbing - enough grip to do single finger pullups (or at least try!) after a few weeks.

Buzz word

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2,028 posts

225 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Thanks for clearing that up. What your saying makes sense. I only started to use gloves after I got fed up with the cycle of getting and losing calluses. I don't think they do anything for grip or comfort in this lift as the bar is never on them.

Where do you get your chalk? I had a little wander round town and looked in the sport shops and none of them sell it. I wasn't too shocked they didn't stock it but don't have many ideas where to look. I did find some of those grip springs for £2 so bought them on a whim. Totally different sensation of grip to my problem area but not a total waste for a few quid.

I got to try out some hangs and the farmers walk today. That felt like the same way it did when losing the bar so I will be sticking with them and rolling that into my routine.

Scottish_ninja

370 posts

202 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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I loose grip at 190kg on deadlift and have to wear hooks to go above 200.

Downside being that you will loose out on forearm strength with straps/hooks.

Stephen.


ewenm

28,506 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Rock-climbing shops will sell chalk - you might find some in Millets or Blacks in their climbing sections but a specialist outdoor pursuit shop would be better if you have a local one.

Buzz word

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2,028 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Top idea, I will give those places a try. I got a bit locked on to the idea of it being a weight lifting item and not thinking where else it could be used.

Halb

53,012 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Buzz word said:
Where do you get your chalk? I had a little wander round town and looked in the sport shops and none of them sell it. I wasn't too shocked they didn't stock it but don't have many ideas where to look. I did find some of those grip springs for £2 so bought them on a whim. Totally different sensation of grip to my problem area but not a total waste for a few quid.
Amazon. I bought a load of it for my kettlebellbiggrin
http://www.amazon.com/American-Athletic-Chalk-Gymn...

okgo

40,610 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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How is best to test grip?

I have always thought that I had very good grip and strong hands and forearms..

I am not doing heavy deads at the minute due to hernia.. but would like to know how I compare to most...

Halb

53,012 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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okgo

40,610 posts

214 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Halb said:
Don't have one of those obviously..

But with my right hand I can squeeze the scales to read about 13 stone..

ShadownINja

78,696 posts

298 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Install one of these in your house.



No, not a topless man.

Thanks to climbing, while I'm not particularly strong, I can do pull ups using just two fingers of each hand.

Edited by ShadownINja on Tuesday 1st September 13:27

ben_reza

412 posts

198 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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As above. Either get one of those boards (I think they are called 'Finger Boards', not to be confused with mini surf boards....), or do a bit of climbing or bouldering, it builds up finger strength like nothing else.

ShadownINja

78,696 posts

298 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Actually, if you only do climbing 2-3 times a week you will build up proper strength (rather than Muscle Mary style muscles). I know climbers who don't ever lift weights and have very well-defined muscle tone. It's quite impressive. Best bit about it is that rather than counting 3 sets of 8 reps or whatever they're just having fun.

Buzz word

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2,028 posts

225 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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I looked at the price of those boards and they're very expensive for what they are. I do like the idea of climbing. I looked into it recently and found the closest place was mile end. TBH I just can't see me finding the motivation for the 1.5hrs is will take me to get there on a regular basis and it is rather expensive. Anywhere local are clubs that go on trips and don't cater for novices so I gave up looking into it.
I do find the guym fun though. I love the endorpine rush after you pick up something big and just notching the numbers weights up. Short term targets like that keep me motivated.

Henry Hawthorne

6,452 posts

232 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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ShadownINja said:
Best bit about it is that rather than counting 3 sets of 8 reps or whatever they're just having fun.
But some people enjoy going to the gym?

As for the grip matters, you could try some forearm curls for both your flexors and extensors i.e. http://www.coopersguns.com/videos/exercise-encyclo... and http://www.coopersguns.com/videos/exercise-encyclo... although personally I'd focus on the flexors I think I'm right in saying they're more important in grip. Also I do french curls as part of bicep routine so that does extensors too.

ShadownINja

78,696 posts

298 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Henry Hawthorne said:
ShadownINja said:
Best bit about it is that rather than counting 3 sets of 8 reps or whatever they're just having fun.
But some people enjoy going to the gym?
Some people do. Most people don't and prefer to do a sport. I'm merely looking at motivation.