Coombe Trackday video....
Coombe Trackday video....
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Munter

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31,330 posts

265 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Have a watch of this. Now the Evos have a few spins but nothing too "silly" compared to some stuff I've seen there.

However I can't help thinking the Fiesta didn't take any notice of some yellow flags/the traffic light thats at the corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKoxsmP5kXY

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

217 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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What a complete peen in the Fiesta.

AB

19,771 posts

219 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Oops

Alex_MCS

2,861 posts

204 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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Ouch, poor guy in the Golf. Seems a lot of the cars are too close to each other in bad conditions though.

wellground

450 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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That was me in the white Evo 10, nearly hitting the wall, that is the most slippery I have ever encountered at Combe. I got it sideways at Avon Rise and had to square it before braking. Close thing though !

John D.

20,352 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Was making me cringe every time a car entered that bend with another behind it, expecting the spin and resulting collision!

Are Evos' really that snappy and difficult to control? Or were the drivers just erring heavily on the side of safety? I can see why the drivers might have opted not to steer into the slide and try to hold it as it is at least safer spinning towards the in-field than getting it wrong and pointing it towards the outside barrier via the wet grass! (As that poor Golf did frown)

Evangelion

8,452 posts

202 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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This is why I'm reluctant to use my own car for a trackday!

Can one hire trackday cars?

Edited by Evangelion on Sunday 30th August 11:35

Munter

Original Poster:

31,330 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Evangelion said:
Can one hire trackday cars?
Yes absolutely. Everything from 205s to Caterhams from various people.

Munter

Original Poster:

31,330 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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wellground said:
That was me in the white Evo 10, nearly hitting the wall, that is the most slippery I have ever encountered at Combe. I got it sideways at Avon Rise and had to square it before braking. Close thing though !
I had a big "Noooooooook he stopped it" watching you do that on the vid. I saw an evo a few years ago on an action day just go head on into the wall and I thought you were about to do a replay!

GravelBen

16,363 posts

254 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Is that a fair representation of the average Evo driver? If so I hate to think what they'd be like without AWD/AYC etc! eek

Pentoman

4,835 posts

287 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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What is that abomination at 1:34?? Dreadful.

Also how are these cars spinning?! Most of them just seem to enter the corner (not fast or hard by the looks of things) and.. weeeeeeee slowly but surely you're going in reverse. Most of it looks like trailling throttle oversteer (e.g. at 2:00), possibly exacerbated by getting on the power again, which is a bit of a surprise because I'd have thought an Evo even in experienced hands would be relatively easy to keep in a straight line..

Pentoman

4,835 posts

287 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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And I just reached the end...
Watching the Golf Mk2 AND Fiesta XR get destroyed together was very hard. frown tragic
Again very surprised to see the back step out on a Mk2 there - I thought a Golf was known as a very non-oversteery car that would mostly just plow on with understeer? Perhaps it was partly due to mixed tyres, worn/modified suspension or something?

I remain bemused.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Pentoman said:
And I just reached the end...
Watching the Golf Mk2 AND Fiesta XR get destroyed together was very hard. frown tragic
Again very surprised to see the back step out on a Mk2 there - I thought a Golf was known as a very non-oversteery car that would mostly just plow on with understeer? Perhaps it was partly due to mixed tyres, worn/modified suspension or something?

I remain bemused.
Plenty of lift off oversteer in MK2 Golfs.

As he started to spin I was saying out loud "keep steering right mate or you're going int the barriers... Don't correct it, Steer right, STEER RIGHT!!!!" - crash.

At Combe if the back steps out in the wet just keep steering right and spin into the infield otherwise you'll end up in the barrier.

varsas

4,073 posts

226 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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T89 Callan said:
Plenty of lift off oversteer in MK2 Golfs.

As he started to spin I was saying out loud "keep steering right mate or you're going int the barriers... Don't correct it, Steer right, STEER RIGHT!!!!" - crash.

At Combe if the back steps out in the wet just keep steering right and spin into the infield otherwise you'll end up in the barrier.
QFT

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

222 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Why is it Castle Combe Action Days have a reputation?

Targarama

14,720 posts

307 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Another CCC action video listed on Youtube was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYcFAEA1CQ&fea...

What went wrong with the TVR there then? Anyone from PH involved? Poor Saxo.

wellground

450 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Pentoman said:
And I just reached the end...
Watching the Golf Mk2 AND Fiesta XR get destroyed together was very hard. frown tragic
Again very surprised to see the back step out on a Mk2 there - I thought a Golf was known as a very non-oversteery car that would mostly just plow on with understeer? Perhaps it was partly due to mixed tyres, worn/modified suspension or something?

I remain bemused.
I have done many days at Castle Combe, to un-bemuse you. The surface was far more slippery than I had ever encountered before. Following a heavy rubbering in, it had rained and was really nasty. It didn't show on the video, it looked just damp. But it was like ice to drive on. All the cars were having trouble.

wellground

450 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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GravelBen said:
Is that a fair representation of the average Evo driver? If so I hate to think what they'd be like without AWD/AYC etc! eek
Moron.

Alex_MCS

2,861 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Herman Toothrot said:
Why is it Castle Combe Action Days have a reputation?
This reminds me, I phoned Greenlight insurance a couple of weeks ago to amend my policy, whilst on the phone I asked about their track day insurance. They said they would insure cars for trackdays anywhere in the UK, except Castle Combe. Apparently they just had too many claims from accidents there.

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

306 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Just looks like several minutes of people not driving to the conditions to me. You reap what you sow, it's nothing to do with the marque of cars, the circuit, the organiser or anything else apart from the nut behind the wheel IMO.