Some people are beyond help?
Some people are beyond help?
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Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

264 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Piss boiling time I think. Personal rant to vent because I can't get hold of the little bds.

My 16 year old nephew and his 15 year old girlfriend produced a baby. Social services and the family rallied around and set her up in a council house, furniture and him with a decent labouring job earning £200 a week by calling in a family favour. Officially he continued living with his mother ( I guess for her to get the council house with housing benefits).

Over the past 5 years they have both basically pissed and smoked their benefits and his wages up the wall, while the family have bought the kids clothes, done the baysitting while they get pissed and bailed them out at every turn. He has been banned from all the local pubs for bad behaviour and she spends all day in bed or with her mates while the housework etc gets left. I don't know how housing benefits work these days but somehow, last week and again without telling anyone they were evicted for rent arrears. Social services to the rescue and she is is a social services contracted B&B with the little one with an offer of a new house before school starts (ora a taxi to take hjer and the little one to the new school). He is sleeping on a mate's sofa.

Thing is, over the past month when I would have been going frantic that I was about to be evicted and homeless with a 4 year old I have watched her boasting on Facebook about how pissed she was, how she is eating out every night (she goes to the local cafe everyday for breakfast) and how she 'has only 6 days to the big day' which I assumed was some announcemnet or new job but it turns out was her eviction. Yesterday she was stil posting details of her eating out and getting pissed on facebook.


Family or not, we should have a cull.

I feel sorry for the little one with such selfish inept parents.

Rant over.

Jasandjules

72,587 posts

258 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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It's sad but I am afraid there are plenty of people like that in this country.

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Those that should be breeding are those that can't afford to.

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Four Cofffee

Original Poster:

11,838 posts

264 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Jasandjules said:
It's sad but I am afraid there are plenty of people like that in this country.
The thing is his older brother is the complete opposite. He, as you might imagine is livid. I honestly think these people are not fit to have kids, partly because they are still kids themselves.

Steamer

14,179 posts

242 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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frown Very sad.

It still amases that having a kid seems to equal a free house and all the trimmings.

Jasandjules

72,587 posts

258 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Four Cofffee said:
Jasandjules said:
It's sad but I am afraid there are plenty of people like that in this country.
The thing is his older brother is the complete opposite. He, as you might imagine is livid. I honestly think these people are not fit to have kids, partly because they are still kids themselves.
Yes, it makes me wonder if Nurture really can make such a difference, when siblings can turn out so differently. Are people simple inherently what they are?

But having kids so young, I have no idea why anyone should want to have children at that age. Of course, getting a house for free may be a driving force, but is it worth it? I think not.

RemaL

25,102 posts

263 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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as said sad news, and a shame peopl and there close family allow this.

Edited by RemaL on Sunday 30th August 20:16

Four Cofffee

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Sunday 30th August 2009
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RemaL said:
as said sad news, and a shame peopl and there close family allow this.

Edited by RemaL on Sunday 30th August 20:16
I hear her mother has been on the verge of reporting her daughter for neglect several times because of her drinking in the day. Sadly she chose to break contact which was one less bit of support and one less pair of eyes. They kept both the baby and the eviction secret until the day it happened and sadly he is an arrogant little tosser who thinks he knows best.

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Four Cofffee said:
RemaL said:
as said sad news, and a shame peopl and there close family allow this.

Edited by RemaL on Sunday 30th August 20:16
I hear her mother has been on the verge of reporting her daughter for neglect several times because of her drinking in the day. Sadly she chose to break contact which was one less bit of support and one less pair of eyes. They kept both the baby and the eviction secret until the day it happened and sadly he is an arrogant little tosser who thinks he knows best.
Thats just tragic frown

Sounds like they are just too young for that kind of responsibility.

Do you have regular contact with the kid? Show him proper love and attention?

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

222 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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My Ex girlfriend lived in a shared house with a couple of scrotes like this, girl trying to get pregnant so she could get a house, the bloke already had two kids, a domestic abuse conviction and a driving ban.

And my ex wondered why I refused to ackowledge them and referred to them only as 'scum'.

Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

264 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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I think for my own peace of mind I will speak with social services on Tuesday to make sure they know what has been going on. I should hate for these idiots to carry on putting themselves first to the litle one's detriment and then something even worse happen.

AUDIHenry

2,201 posts

216 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Should have forced an abortion.

central

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246 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Four Cofffee

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Sunday 30th August 2009
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AUDIHenry said:
Should have forced an abortion.
Nobody knew until the day, they wandered into a doctors surgery when the waters broke. Her Mum worked shifts (no regular meals/things they did together) and she wore baggy clothes and skipped school to hide it.

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Four Cofffee said:
AUDIHenry said:
Should have forced an abortion.
Nobody knew until the day, they wandered into a doctors surgery when the waters broke. Her Mum worked shifts (no regular meals/things they did together) and she wore baggy clothes and skipped school to hide it.
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v64paul

120 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Sometimes i wish i never watched posts on facebook. Similar position in my extended family, one has already produced two children while the other half has frankly a long way to go before he proves his worth as a human being to me. Now her younger sister is pregnant and displays a mental age of 9, going by her facebook activity. Meanwhile my son and his wife act as auntie and uncle to these children with all the care and diligence you would expect whilst being unable to produce their own offspring. Piss boiler? you better believe it....

Edited by v64paul on Sunday 30th August 21:59


Edited by v64paul on Sunday 30th August 22:00

Four Cofffee

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Monday 31st August 2009
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v64paul said:
Sometimes i wish i never watched posts on facebook. Similar position in my extended family, one has already produced two children while the other half has frankly a long way to go before he proves his worth as a human being to me. Now her younger sister is pregnant and displays a mental age of 9, going by her facebook activity. Meanwhile my son and his wife act as auntie and uncle to these children with all the care and diligence you would expect whilst being unable to produce their own offspring. Piss boiler? you better believe it....

Edited by v64paul on Sunday 30th August 21:59


Edited by v64paul on Sunday 30th August 22:00
She is on Facebook again this morning, recovering from a binge last night. Ins some respects it could be her downfall as any one of her 700+ 'friends' have the evidence for SS to show she is drunk most nights. Including me.

Four Cofffee

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Monday 31st August 2009
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AUDIHenry said:
Should have forced an abortion.
You have to feel sorry for the little one, who is a lovely, bright and cheerful little girl. I certainly have zero sympathy for these two cretins she sadly has to call Mum and Dad.

lingus75

1,705 posts

251 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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As hard as I try I can't understand how people can have so little self respect that they allow themsleves to get in that state. I think I would rather die.

Penny-lope

13,645 posts

222 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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When I left my ex, I was told 'if you give up your job, you will be able to claim everything, and get your house paid for you' This was from someone working in the local homeless unit....Unbelievable!