F1 formula1 engines

[Welshbeef]

Currently they are allowed 8 but previously there was no limit so the question is what currently happens to the used engines and what happened before?

Are they recycled or scrapped or put into museum cars never to run again? If I wanted to buy a f1 engine no older than 1990 with all the ancillaries how much would it cost and if it could be very defined could you have it as a road car engine?

[Mafioso]

You do know F1 stands for Formula One don't you!?

[mrmr96]

Mafioso said:

You do know F1 stands for Formula One don't you!?

Putting both makes it turn up in a search for either.

Back on topic.

[Truckosaurus]

I suspect the current manufacturers would like to keep their engines away from the public to prevent their competitors from learning about their designs.

I'd suspect companies like Judd, Zytek and Nicholson-Mclaren who are customer engine suppliers of F1 alike engines would be happy to take someone's hypothetical money for a crazy roadcar scheme. And I'm sure any engine could be made 'road legal' given careful enough installation and tuning.

[Somnophore]

I have seen websites that sell whole f1 cars from early 90s, so I'm sure you can get engines.

[ZesPak]

Somnophore said:

I have seen websites that sell whole f1 cars from early 90s, so I'm sure you can get engines.

linky?

[Somnophore]

www.f1-sales.com/engines.htm

[dazco]

Somnophore said:

www.f1-sales.com/engines.htm

Talk about specialist.

Wow.

[Somnophore]

I think you'd be better off looking for something like a NASCAR engine or similar or some 550-600bhp cosworth engine.

[Welshbeef]

Oh my a race spec NASCAR engine for only $8000!!! holy mother of god they sound stunning. Great link

[ceebmoj]

Or something like a rsv v8 / radical v8 still expencive however

[Welshbeef]

Oh my a race spec NASCAR engine for only $8000!!! holy mother of god they sound stunning. Great link

[flemke]

Welshbeef said:

Currently they are allowed 8 but previously there was no limit so the question is what currently happens to the used engines and what happened before?

Are they recycled or scrapped or put into museum cars never to run again? If I wanted to buy a f1 engine no older than 1990 with all the ancillaries how much would it cost and if it could be very defined could you have it as a road car engine?

They are totally unusable in road cars.
Beyond the technical issues such as that their oil must be heated before the engine is started, and that they must be started with a computer (hence when an engine stalls whilst on the circuit it is never restarted by the driver), these engines are designed with a very narrow power band at the top. Driving in town or in an uphill queue would be out of the question.

I have a friend who, doing the "Turbo Era", was hired by an F1 team principal to install one of that year's engines into his road car. He did the job, but says that the car was so undrivable because of the power delivery that he believes that he is the only person who has ever actually driven it.

[AndrewW-G]

Another source would be the odd auction where the F1 teams old kit (normally a few years old) is sold off, you could also try Ferrari's Corsa Cliente dept if you have an excess of cash you need rid of

[Rich_W]

flemke said:

Welshbeef said:

Currently they are allowed 8 but previously there was no limit so the question is what currently happens to the used engines and what happened before?

Are they recycled or scrapped or put into museum cars never to run again? If I wanted to buy a f1 engine no older than 1990 with all the ancillaries how much would it cost and if it could be very defined could you have it as a road car engine?

They are totally unusable in road cars.
Beyond the technical issues such as that their oil must be heated before the engine is started, and that they must be started with a computer (hence when an engine stalls whilst on the circuit it is never restarted by the driver), these engines are designed with a very narrow power band at the top. Driving in town or in an uphill queue would be out of the question.

I have a friend who, doing the "Turbo Era", was hired by an F1 team principal to install one of that year's engines into his road car. He did the job, but says that the car was so undrivable because of the power delivery that he believes that he is the only person who has ever actually driven it.

I've heard the rumour, mainly that it was a present to said Team Principal from the engine manufacturer who suplied him that year. The rumour as is so often the case may have been incorrect. Either way I suspected it might be a bit of a handful though

[Decky_Q]

A friend has one in his living room a ford turbo F1 engine, no idea at all about age but it is pretty old afaik, got it for free when he was clearing out a university engineering dept.

As for putting it in a road car, no way. They are brilliantly engineered to get around restrictions such as capacity, but there is no restriction on this on the road so you could just buy a dodge SRT10 much cheaper and it would be reliable and produce only a small amount of HP less even as standard.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

Somnophore said:

www.f1-sales.com/engines.htm

£60k for a Cosworth-Zetec!!! Bloody hell!

Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Monday 31st August 17:23

[ZeeTacoe]

flemke said:

and that they must be started with a computer (hence when an engine stalls whilst on the circuit it is never restarted by the driver),

that and the lack of on board starter motor.

[MigX]

have a look at menard competition tecnology. they might sell you a engine if you have the money.
asked if i could but they didnt let me take any pictures at all. not even from the lazy crash test dummy that lurks around the place doing nothing.

[Zad]

No point having a starter motor as the onboard battery is waaaay too weedy to be able to power a starter.



Hmm. KERS. I shall ponder that...