Air con servicing
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funkyboogalooo

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1,844 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st January 2004
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Thinking of getting a stand at Pistonfest and offering an air con servicing service. I would be able to do around 15 services over the weekend. It would include a leak check, evacuation and recharge, top up of oil and injection of u/v dye for any possible future leak detection. Would cost £65.00 fully inclusive. Would anyone be interested? I'm trying to figure out if it would be worth my while taking up a stand.
Cheers
Mike

the dodger

2,376 posts

279 months

Wednesday 4th February 2004
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Not many responses funky? I would have thought this a worthwhile offer of service - especially at a reasonable price of £65. Do you have a list of charge weights then?

I think it needs broadcasting.

DustyC

12,820 posts

270 months

Thursday 5th February 2004
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How often should air con be re charged? is it just when it starts to feel crap?

the dodger

2,376 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th February 2004
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DustyC said:
How often should air con be re charged? is it just when it starts to feel crap?

You can be very lucky and never need a re-charge. You could also have an leak at an "acceptable" limit, meaning about 7-10 yrs before re-gas required. If you have more of a problem then - every year! If it's just an o-ring seal problem this can be fixed at the same time. How do you tell? - when it starts to feel crap!


nighthawkEP3

1,757 posts

260 months

Sunday 8th February 2004
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Most manufacturers recommend that the system is serviced every 2 years now.

this service includes draining the system and pulling a vacuum to detect leaks, then a uv dye is injected for future leak detection before the system is recharged to the correct weight.

I take it the service will only be open to the newer cars with R134a refrigerent and not the old school cars which are probably still on R12

funkyboogalooo

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Sunday 15th February 2004
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the dodger said:




DustyC said:
How often should air con be re charged? is it just when it starts to feel crap?





You can be very lucky and never need a re-charge. You could also have an leak at an "acceptable" limit, meaning about 7-10 yrs before re-gas required. If you have more of a problem then - every year! If it's just an o-ring seal problem this can be fixed at the same time. How do you tell? - when it starts to feel crap!






Sorry for the delay in answering guys, no-one had replied to the thread for ages so I thought it was a non starter.
You may never 'need' a recharge but your system should be serviced at least every 2 years for it to run efficiently. The refrigerant carries with it the oil that lubricates all the parts. If the refrigerant or oil is low then the parts arent getting lubed and 'o' rings start to leak, compressors wear etc etc. Also the system will have a drier in it that contains a dessicant which is pretty much knackered after a few years and also benefits from changing (not absolutely neccesary but recommended).
I can retrofit 99% of R12 systems to take R134 quite easily. But I couldnt do it at pistonfest unless it ws pre booked to allow me to order the parts.
I do have a computerised system which tell me all charge weights, oil capacities, parts prices etc from alfa to volvo.
The form is this.
I would leak check the system electronically prior to the service, and check all pressures and temperatures. Then the refrigerant would be recovered from the system and weighed, along with noting any oil recovered. The system would then be vacuumed for a min 40 mins to remove any moisture from the system this also helps to check for leaks, although not fool proof as sometimes as you can appreciatte a leak from a joint may seal when it is pulled together under vac and leak when under pressure from refrigerant. The sytem is then charged with the correct weight gas and any oil taken out replaced. Then UV dye is injected for any future leak detection. Again all pressures and temperature is noted. An voila provided all is well with your system away you go probably 1 or 2 degrees cooler or more if your system was empty. I must say though I cant knowingly charge refrigerant to a system I know has a leak (its illegal). So Any leaks must be fixed by me before I can recharge.

Also if you find your car smells musty inside I can sort that. It is usually from the evaparator which is basically a radiator under your dash. because it gets damp and warm it gets mouldy and starts to smell. See below for some more boring stuff. I can treat this for an additional £30.00 or just treat this if a service/recharge isnt required. Pollen filter changing also available provideing I get your car details prior to pistonfest as again the parts will need ordering.

Hope that helps. Like I said if I get enough interest I will probably take a stand. And sorry for my naff typing skills i'm knackered tonight
Cheers
Mike


Sick car syndrome Part 1
Is your air conditioning failing to provide its original freshness?

As your car air conditioning system ages, you may notice the freshness of the air provided deteriorating. Whenever your air conditioning is operating, moisture in the air condenses on the system's cold surfaces. Whilst most of this moisture drains harmlessly away, some of the moisture remains within the ventilation system after your A/C has been turned off.

This residual moisture provides the ideal living environment for naturally occurring airborne fungal micro-organisms, mildew and mould.

Recent national media attention has been focused on a new driving phenomenon named 'Sick Car Syndrome' which scientists believe is caused by the build-up of bacteria. Trapped within the ventilation system, these colonies can combine to produce unpleasant odours and potentially flu-like symptoms.

THE IMPORTANCE OF SERVICING
By spending a small amount on an annual or bi-annual basis you are limiting the risk of having to find a major fault.

Gas leaks naturally from all systems at 10 - 15% per annum. If this is left untreated, fuel economy is affected when the system is run. The compressor (which uses fuel) has to work harder to generate the correct temperatures when the gas level is low. This costs you money as it uses more fuel. In addition, the lower the gas level, the greater the likelihood of component failure.


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PetrolTed

34,447 posts

319 months

Sunday 15th February 2004
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Mmmm... might have to make use of this service myself...


Go on then... put the B3 down for a noseblowing...

funkyboogalooo

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284 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Cheers Ted
Your booked.
Just to let you guys know I will be in attendance at pistonfest so anyone wishing to have any aircon work or pollen filters changing please mail me.
Funkyboogalooo@ntlworld.com

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

277 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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OK Funky, depends on which motor I bring, but I might well have a bit od bussiness for you

Ben

funkyboogalooo

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284 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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cheers Ben

docevi1

10,430 posts

264 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Can I do one of those numpty things insisting my car has Air-Con and make you hunt for the compressor and the like?

I drive a Marlin Roadster btw - Morris Marina underneath

Muncher

12,234 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th February 2004
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My Dad's Rover 45 aircon (W Reg) smells pretty rancid, it's about to be sold privately, what's the best way to temporarily stop this during the selling process?

funkyboogalooo

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Tuesday 17th February 2004
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Mail me off line and i'll let you know.
air.cool@ntlworld.com

funkyboogalooo

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284 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Its starting to get hot guys. Anymore bookings?
Mike

PetrolTed

34,447 posts

319 months

Tuesday 30th March 2004
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Tickets will be on sale very shortly. Things will definitely be hotting up!

DustyC

12,820 posts

270 months

Wednesday 31st March 2004
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Just to let you all know, definitly worth getting the pollen filter changed. I just changed mine in the Golf and its mde a huge difference to the air flow.

funkyboogalooo

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284 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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Anyone wanting to book up? Getting buzy now. Its also getting hotter.
Mike

tvradict

3,829 posts

290 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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Your telling me.

Can you do retro fitting to Lorries?

Don't think I could bring it to PF though.

funkyboogalooo

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Thursday 22nd April 2004
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tvradict said:
Your telling me.

Can you do retro fitting to Lorries?

Don't think I could bring it to PF though.

Funnily enough I was thinking of advertising locally for servicing of lorry air con systems. Much of a call for it you reckon?
Mike

mudstud

249 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th April 2004
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Count me in if I'm around. Won't know if I can make it until the week before due to work commitments (or lack of).