Urban racing exhaust
Urban racing exhaust
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2.5bluenob

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1,620 posts

205 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Has anyone got any feedback about the exhaust on offer from urban Racing.That is anyone with first hand experiance.Because i've got my gto booked in there for the exhaust pictured on prev thread but was told that there is no need for a remap as this is just a bolt on. But would i benifit more from having a remap after fitting or is wasting money?

Cheers Steve.

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

215 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Other people will comment I'm sure and you can open a tin of worms with this. Mine is quicker with the exhaust and fuel pump. Where do you want to go..........the more HP the more stress etc etc etc

2.5bluenob

Original Poster:

1,620 posts

205 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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wessexrfc said:
Other people will comment I'm sure and you can open a tin of worms with this. Mine is quicker with the exhaust and fuel pump. Where do you want to go..........the more HP the more stress etc etc etc
Before commiting to urbans exhast i spoke to jnm as they upgraded my ecu for me last year. And they say that their exhaust could take a 2.5 like mine to 370 hp. Also It actualy doesnt put any extra stess on the engine infact i'm told the opposite because the more free flowing exhaust lets gases out quicker therefore make it more efficient.but maybe this is just their sales pitch after all im no mechanic.
steve

Richie350

344 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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i can without doubt say that you wont be disappointed with the quaility and service you will get from Dave and his team down at Urban-Racing clap

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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2.5bluenob said:
they say that their exhaust could take a 2.5 like mine to 370 hp.
2.5bluenob said:
It actualy doesnt put any extra stess on the engine
Certainly, an eficient exhaust design can reduce the losses in an engine, but i think not to that degree.

Trevor remapped my 2.5 after my Roush exhaust was fitted. Stock boost, came out IIRC at 310BHP ish.

2.5bluenob

Original Poster:

1,620 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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peterguk M500 said:
2.5bluenob said:
they say that their exhaust could take a 2.5 like mine to 370 hp.
2.5bluenob said:
It actualy doesnt put any extra stess on the engine
Certainly, an eficient exhaust design can reduce the losses in an engine, but i think not to that degree.

Trevor remapped my 2.5 after my Roush exhaust was fitted. Stock boost, came out IIRC at 310BHP ish.
Does this mean that your car had lost a few horses over the years? becuase 310hp is standard for a 2.5. And i would have thought that the Roush system would have given you a big increase in power. I'm looking to run about 360 and i dont plan on using more boost. Maybe im being a bit optimistic. Guess ill find out when its done.

Steve.

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Sorry, i should have said 310 ish RWHP, i.e. REAL wheel horse power, not ficticious ambitious flywheel horse power.

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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2.5bluenob said:
wessexrfc said:
Other people will comment I'm sure and you can open a tin of worms with this. Mine is quicker with the exhaust and fuel pump. Where do you want to go..........the more HP the more stress etc etc etc
Before commiting to urbans exhast i spoke to jnm as they upgraded my ecu for me last year. And they say that their exhaust could take a 2.5 like mine to 370 hp. Also It actualy doesnt put any extra stess on the engine infact i'm told the opposite because the more free flowing exhaust lets gases out quicker therefore make it more efficient.but maybe this is just their sales pitch after all im no mechanic.
steve
How much power is your car producing? how much power do you think an M400 makes?

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Im guessing an M400 makes 340bhp at the wheels?... never that interested in estimated flywheel figures if its measured on a RR.

2.5bluenob

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1,620 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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peterguk M500 said:
Sorry, i should have said 310 ish RWHP, i.e. REAL wheel horse power, not ficticious ambitious flywheel horse power.
Ok then How many horses can you expect to lose between the fly wheel and the rear wheels? Is there a general formula for this loss or does it vary alot depending on the tramsmission etc. Now im just woundering when i got a remap at jnm was the hp measured at the f wheel??

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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2.5bluenob said:
peterguk M500 said:
Sorry, i should have said 310 ish RWHP, i.e. REAL wheel horse power, not [-]ficticious[/-] ambitious flywheel horse power.

Ok then How many horses can you expect to lose between the fly wheel and the rear wheels? Is there a general formula for this loss or does it vary alot depending on the tramsmission etc. Now im just woundering when i got a remap at jnm was the hp measured at the f wheel??


It was deffo an estimated flywheel figure you were given with (from my experience) questionable losses !

Steve

david.mt

1,173 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Don't worry too much about absolute numbers (Q. How do you get an additional 50bhp? A. Go to a different dyno wink).

Just make sure you get before and after figures to make sure you are happy with the changes/investment and that the car runs well throughout the RPM range.

2.5bluenob

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1,620 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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david.mt said:
Don't worry too much about absolute numbers (Q. How do you get an additional 50bhp? A. Go to a different dyno wink).

Just make sure you get before and after figures to make sure you are happy with the changes/investment and that the car runs well throughout the RPM range.
Thanks for the advice, yep that makes good sence.

Steve

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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david.mt said:
Don't worry too much about absolute numbers (Q. How do you get an additional 50bhp? A. Go to a different dyno wink).

Just make sure you get before and after figures to make sure you are happy with the changes/investment and that the car runs well throughout the RPM range.
Very sensible advicesmile

Jenx

11,579 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Hey, Adrian...that's not you AGREEING with someone, is it? [feint]

laugh

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Jenx said:
Hey, Adrian...that's not you AGREEING with someone, is it? [feint]

laugh
I agreed with everyone about the colour of your car

Jenx

11,579 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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That you are all jealous...


Bittercars

276 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Where are Urban? . Can someone post contact details please?
Thanks

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Bittercars said:
Where are Urban? . Can someone post contact details please?
Thanks
www.urban-racing.com Dave is the guy to speak to. Also search "Urban Racing Exhaust group buy" this will give you some pics of the exhaust systems we have fitted

HTH

Paul