Artex and Asbestos....
Discussion
my mates dad died of asbestosis........
took nearly a week to cremate him!
on a serious note if asbestos was as dangerous as they make out everybody born before 1980 would be dead.
the fibres have to be a specific size and airborne to be a danger.
i have machined it on lathe's and milling machines with dust extraction before and im still here.
took nearly a week to cremate him!
on a serious note if asbestos was as dangerous as they make out everybody born before 1980 would be dead.
the fibres have to be a specific size and airborne to be a danger.
i have machined it on lathe's and milling machines with dust extraction before and im still here.
Virtually all asbestos in artex will be 'harmless' stuff. It certainly won't be the nasty blue stuff.
That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
Trouble is you just don't know where it is, cladding, lagging, artex etc etc. It's blinkin everywhere...
If you've going to be doing any job in the house that needs a dust mask, get a P3 rated respirator. Might cost a bit more, but might just be worth the pennies. Granted it won't fulfil all the safe practice criteria, but better than nothing.
If you've going to be doing any job in the house that needs a dust mask, get a P3 rated respirator. Might cost a bit more, but might just be worth the pennies. Granted it won't fulfil all the safe practice criteria, but better than nothing.
bazking69 said:
Virtually all asbestos in artex will be 'harmless' stuff. It certainly won't be the nasty blue stuff.
That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
Sorry guys, there is no such thing as 'harmless' asbestos, it's all dangerous.That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
There is a right way to remove it, even when it's in artex. All I can suggest is if you have any doubts, do your research first on how to remove the object or material it's in.
bazking69 said:
Virtually all asbestos in artex will be 'harmless' stuff. It certainly won't be the nasty blue stuff.
That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
ALL ASBESTOS IS DANGEROUS never strip artex always skim over if in any doubt at all get yourself onto the HSE site here http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2008/e08010.htmThat said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
Do not mess with this stuff it will kill you painfully in the end!
yes i hold an awareness certificate
Please don't mess around with the stuff whether you think it's harmless or not. It takes years to affect you and will kill you slowly. My dad used to work with the stuff and contracted asbestosis. He died which to be honest was a blessing as he suffered dramatically for years because of it. We had to have stair lifts and oxygen pipes fitted round the house just so he could get about. It still makes me cry remembering the shadow of a man that he once was and that he never got to see any of his grandchildren. He was the last to die from all those who worked for the same firm. He was only 54 when he died.
Tony*T3 said:
Did you know that Artex and similar products used to be made with Asbestos as an ingrediant? Apparantly an ingrediant from before the mid 1980's.
I didnt.
Just been stripping Artex from a house last renovated in the early 1980's.
Worth knowing before hand.
IIRC that's what Artex meansI didnt.
Just been stripping Artex from a house last renovated in the early 1980's.
Worth knowing before hand.
Asbestos Reinforced TEXturing
We plaster boarded over the top of ours I htink - the plasterers dealt with it all.
I have to say the attitudes to asbestos vary widly - from run to the hills - 5k to remove one asbestos tile from roof - to the - we don't really care attitude. We had tiles and some corrugated sheets - we had various builders look at the job (one who built the stuff 40 years ago) and they just didn't care.
I got some advice from an official body somewhere - I took photos and asked them what they thought and they were able to give best and worst case scenarios and what would and wouldn't be legal in those cases
I have to say the attitudes to asbestos vary widly - from run to the hills - 5k to remove one asbestos tile from roof - to the - we don't really care attitude. We had tiles and some corrugated sheets - we had various builders look at the job (one who built the stuff 40 years ago) and they just didn't care.
I got some advice from an official body somewhere - I took photos and asked them what they thought and they were able to give best and worst case scenarios and what would and wouldn't be legal in those cases
xllifts said:
bazking69 said:
Virtually all asbestos in artex will be 'harmless' stuff. It certainly won't be the nasty blue stuff.
That said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
ALL ASBESTOS IS DANGEROUS never strip artex always skim over if in any doubt at all get yourself onto the HSE site here http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2008/e08010.htmThat said, when we had our downstairs hall ceiling ripped out and replaced after a water leak they took no chances, sealed off the whole area inside the house, worked in suits and masks and hosed it all down out in the front garden under special tents. My house looked like a crime scene that day!
Do not mess with this stuff it will kill you painfully in the end!
yes i hold an awareness certificate
I've just had my guttering and all that replaced at home whilst I was away.
The company that did it left one of the downpipes on my back lawn... no problem thought I..... smash it up, throw it in the Jeep and off to the tip.
Got to the tip, the eco-mentalist chappie spotted it and you'd have thought I'd pissed on his kids.
I got a snotty letter handed to me, telling me that Asbestos can only be disposed of at 3 sites in Wiltshire (all miles from me) and that I must arrived with all material double-bagged and I must have overalls, goggles, gloves and god knows what else.
I said to him, I'm hardly trying to dispose of nuclear waste, so how's about I just bury it in the foundations of my new fence and we leave it at that.
He didn't say much as I threw it all back in the Jeep and drove off.
Honestly, 40 years ago we were living in houses built of the stuff, I hardly think a few minutes exposure's going to kill you!
The company that did it left one of the downpipes on my back lawn... no problem thought I..... smash it up, throw it in the Jeep and off to the tip.
Got to the tip, the eco-mentalist chappie spotted it and you'd have thought I'd pissed on his kids.
I got a snotty letter handed to me, telling me that Asbestos can only be disposed of at 3 sites in Wiltshire (all miles from me) and that I must arrived with all material double-bagged and I must have overalls, goggles, gloves and god knows what else.
I said to him, I'm hardly trying to dispose of nuclear waste, so how's about I just bury it in the foundations of my new fence and we leave it at that.
He didn't say much as I threw it all back in the Jeep and drove off.
Honestly, 40 years ago we were living in houses built of the stuff, I hardly think a few minutes exposure's going to kill you!
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