Froggy's noble troubles
Froggy's noble troubles
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brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Hi,

since I've bought this M12 GTO 3, I don't understand the engine performances.
There is a lot of cuts when I kick the power on fourth and fifth gear from 2800 rpm.
The car overheat when I drive a « long time » ( 20 miles !) at 4000 rpm by warm days (35° C).

Yesterday, I've a dyno test.
392 hp at 4540 rpm
463 lb/ft at 4267 rpm with more than 450 lb/ft from 3300 to 4700 rpm.
After, the curve is going down very quickly.

The fuel pump loks like the original, the exhaust too.
Fuel filter, spark plugs, temp sensor, oil, water coolant are new.
Turbo pressure seems ok on the gauge and on the PC (0,7 )

I think this car has been remapped, but how can I confirm it ?

What do you think I have to do ?

Hope what I write is correct for you
thanks

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Contact Yellowshead through his profile on here, arrange to come to the UK and get him to look at your car.

david.mt

1,173 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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Adrian W said:
Contact Yellowshead through his profile on here, arrange to come to the UK and get him to look at your car.
Very sensible advice smile

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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yellowshead is yellowhead or yellowshed ?
thanks

Edited by brb on Wednesday 2nd September 17:23


Edited by brb on Wednesday 2nd September 17:23

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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have you had the boost level checked as it must be very high to produce that much torque... speak to yellowshed as hes the man that knows

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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the boost is less than 0,7 on th gauge and on the noble software.
I've to check it seriously

Adrian W

15,491 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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brb said:
yellowshead is yellowhead or yellowshed ?
thanks

Edited by brb on Wednesday 2nd September 17:23


Edited by brb on Wednesday 2nd September 17:23
Sorry I can't spell

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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done, thanks

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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If you are making that torque at that boost.....on a standard set up,
Do you want to sell your engine ?????????

Sorry but sounds too good to be true at 0.7 bar on GT25's etc but amazing if it is !

Steve

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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the saler told me that his car was standard.
if somebody know this car: LJ03 HAU

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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do you have the power graph for us to see ?

do you know the power at the wheels


brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2009
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at the weels, it's 360 hp DIN
for the graph, I'll try on friday

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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thats a long long way beyond std power... its got the symptoms of an engine running way to much boost... would have thought they would have checked the boost acuaratelly at the RR though?

Dont trust the in car guage.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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what dyno did you get the car tested on ?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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daddysumo said:
If you are making that torque at that boost.....on a standard set up,
Do you want to sell your engine ?????????

Sorry but sounds too good to be true at 0.7 bar on GT25's etc but amazing if it is !

Steve
Quite, these are well above stock outputs scratchchin

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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Gadgeroonie said:
what dyno did you get the car tested on ?
it was a "soft-engine" dynamometers in belgium.

brb

Original Poster:

109 posts

209 months

Thursday 3rd September 2009
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andygtt said:
thats a long long way beyond std power... its got the symptoms of an engine running way to much boost... would have thought they would have checked the boost acuaratelly at the RR though?

Dont trust the in car guage.
i don't trust the gauge and the engine soft.
I've to check the real pressure.

daddysumo

2,545 posts

242 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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I think if you were running those sort of figures the standard gearbox and clutch would have cried enough by now.
I really don't think the standard GT25's will flow enough volume of air at 0.7 bar to make that sort of torque either as mine only made 400-ish at 1 bar with exhaust and fuel pump upgrades.The GT28's dont do it at 0.7 bar either so get your dyno figures verified just incase it was a bit optomistic.
As for the cuts and overheating that could be a multiple of things that need looking at and sorting in the flesh so to speak.AIMHO.

Steve