darren brown program
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I think its 09/09/09 it starts. As for the adverts as he suggests there are quite a few clues as to what is going on in the advert.
look at the lamp post, bus shelter, ballon, billboard above the stop and the truck that nearly hits him at the end. TBH you proably wont get it from that but there is a lottery style banner on the bus. Type that into your browser and that lays it all down what to expect.
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look at the lamp post, bus shelter, ballon, billboard above the stop and the truck that nearly hits him at the end. TBH you proably wont get it from that but there is a lottery style banner on the bus. Type that into your browser and that lays it all down what to expect.
shakotan said:
EP2Nick said:
that website is amazing, will play lottery anyway for a laugh
Um, which website? I got the reversed Manchester United one, and the fake pizza company, but there's no sitelink on the bus?31 seconds in on the bus "it says it will be you". I looked it up at home by adding a .com or something and there is a site there but it looks a bit naff. Unfortunatly I can't verify it at work as the firewall is stopping me as it's alledgedly a gambelling site so any trying is at your own risk!
It looks like you could be right about the 11th. I got the 9th from that it will be you site.
such a load of rubbish his programmes. had a big arguement with my mate who genuinely believes his act. He thinks that he uses all his subversive, neuro lingistic programming to get people to think something and then it looks like he "knows" what they are thinking. He doesn't he's just an illusionist and that is his front, like other magicians have other themes. boring shatners bassoon
torqueofthedevil said:
such a load of rubbish his programmes. had a big arguement with my mate who genuinely believes his act. He thinks that he uses all his subversive, neuro lingistic programming to get people to think something and then it looks like he "knows" what they are thinking. He doesn't he's just an illusionist and that is his front, like other magicians have other themes. boring shatners bassoon
It's not a front at all - he's very open about it and whilst he does have to 'preserve his act' by not giving away all the 'tricks', he does go out of his way to explain a great deal of the psychology behind what he does. The interesting thing about his programmes / acts / shows etc, for me at least, is trying to work out exactly how he's managed whatever the act he's performing is. It's the science behind it. Of course there's an element of showmanship and a stage persona there, but it's not like he's sat there doing tarot cards or claiming to be speaking to your dead relatives. Watch his discussion with Richard Dawkins, it's available on youtube.
Edited by Stu R on Thursday 3rd September 20:59
Stu R said:
torqueofthedevil said:
such a load of rubbish his programmes. had a big arguement with my mate who genuinely believes his act. He thinks that he uses all his subversive, neuro lingistic programming to get people to think something and then it looks like he "knows" what they are thinking. He doesn't he's just an illusionist and that is his front, like other magicians have other themes. boring shatners bassoon
It's not a front at all - he's very open about it and whilst he does have to 'preserve his act' by not giving away all the 'tricks', he does go out of his way to explain a great deal of the psychology behind what he does. The interesting thing about his programmes / acts / shows etc, for me at least, is trying to work out exactly how he's managed whatever the act he's performing is. It's the science behind it. Of course there's an element of showmanship and a stage persona there, but it's not like he's sat there doing tarot cards or claiming to be speaking to your dead relatives. Watch his discussion with Richard Dawkins, it's available on youtube.
Edited by sstein on Thursday 3rd September 21:25
sstein said:
Stu R said:
torqueofthedevil said:
such a load of rubbish his programmes. had a big arguement with my mate who genuinely believes his act. He thinks that he uses all his subversive, neuro lingistic programming to get people to think something and then it looks like he "knows" what they are thinking. He doesn't he's just an illusionist and that is his front, like other magicians have other themes. boring shatners bassoon
It's not a front at all - he's very open about it and whilst he does have to 'preserve his act' by not giving away all the 'tricks', he does go out of his way to explain a great deal of the psychology behind what he does. The interesting thing about his programmes / acts / shows etc, for me at least, is trying to work out exactly how he's managed whatever the act he's performing is. It's the science behind it. Of course there's an element of showmanship and a stage persona there, but it's not like he's sat there doing tarot cards or claiming to be speaking to your dead relatives. Watch his discussion with Richard Dawkins, it's available on youtube.
Edited by sstein on Thursday 3rd September 21:25
Derren Brown is an illusionist.
His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.
Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.

Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
him_over_there said:
Derren Brown is an illusionist.
His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.
Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
He's quite upfront about the techniques he uses.His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.

Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
monthefish said:
him_over_there said:
Derren Brown is an illusionist.
His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.
Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
He's quite upfront about the techniques he uses.His psychology stuff is his schtick.
Especially his live stuff.
I'm amazed people, rational adults, believe that it is mind tricks, influence and reading etc.
I've seen a lot of his shows and haven't seen anything that doesn't require a prop or the more traditional magic tricks.
No reading / influencing / psychology required I'm afraid.
One of his live shows he uses a Malloy table (a master prediction system) yet people still think it's wooo wooo mind tricks.

Remember in magic, it's almost always the simplest solution.
Take for example the Something Wicked This way Comes tour. At the end of the show he goes through a convoluted example of how he influenced this and that and the audience choose a word etc.
This is categorically not how did it, like i said. It's conjuring, like a lot of other magicians do, just not to the same standard of showmanship and not wrapped up in mentalism.
The same goes for his oracle trick I think he called it, where he had a scroll and a prediction. Again this gets all wrapped up in mentalism and reading. It's not, he uses a well known stage prop, 90% of the trick is done off-stage by his helpers. Like all magic.
I'm not saying it isn't impressive, he pulls it off with remarkable ease and showmanship. He is probably the best around, remarkable. I just wonder how many people would still go and see him if they were aware of his techniques and he didn't have the mentalism / mysticism myth surrounding him.
Edited by him_over_there on Friday 4th September 12:57
EP2Nick said:
So are these going to be the numbers he predicts? 
B17NNS said:
EP2Nick said:
So are these going to be the numbers he predicts? 

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