Swear filter.
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Strangely Brown

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15,691 posts

260 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Would it be possible to make the swear filter optional? i.e. A preference setting such that it can be on or off at the individual's discretion rather than having to be nannied?

The default would be "on", of course, but I would like the ability to turn it off.

Matt172

12,415 posts

273 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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why would you want to be able to do this? We have swear filters at work, so by allowing posters to have the ability to 'switch off' the swear filter would more than likely lead to it being banned from here.

Don't really see any benefit tbh

Strangely Brown

Original Poster:

15,691 posts

260 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Matt172 said:
why would you want to be able to do this? We have swear filters at work, so by allowing posters to have the ability to 'switch off' the swear filter would more than likely lead to it being banned from here.

Don't really see any benefit tbh
The benefit is that people would have the choice not to be nannied. If people where you work don't want to get PH banned there then don't turn off the filter. Simples.

The filter as it stands is far too draconian and filter pathetic words. e.g. Mr. Jones went to Shorpe to attend a conference on the bdisation of language.

AFAIAC it is broken and I would prefer the option to turn it off. If others wish to keep it they would have the option to leave it in its default state.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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If PH was to end up on one of the major block lists then it could disappear from a large number of offices around the country overnight, regardless of whether the individual users had the swear-filter on or off.

The swearfilter is not new and I do not see what you stand to gain simply by being able to read a few rude words.

Strangely Brown

Original Poster:

15,691 posts

260 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Mr Will said:
If PH was to end up on one of the major block lists then it could disappear from a large number of offices around the country overnight, regardless of whether the individual users had the swear-filter on or off.

The swearfilter is not new and I do not see what you stand to gain simply by being able to read a few rude words.
It's called choice. I don't like being told what I can and can't read, especially so when the words that are filtered are NOT swear words. If you can't fix it so that it behaves properly and only filters words that really are offensive (matter of opinion) then at least give us the choice of being able to turn it off on a per user basis.

JohnnyPanic

1,282 posts

238 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Strangely Brown said:
Shorpe
Strangely Brown said:
AFAIAC it is broken
To me it all seems to be working as it should smile

JohnnyPanic

1,282 posts

238 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Strangely Brown said:
Mr Will said:
If PH was to end up on one of the major block lists then it could disappear from a large number of offices around the country overnight, regardless of whether the individual users had the swear-filter on or off.

The swearfilter is not new and I do not see what you stand to gain simply by being able to read a few rude words.
It's called choice. I don't like being told what I can and can't read, especially so when the words that are filtered are NOT swear words. If you can't fix it so that it behaves properly and only filters words that really are offensive (matter of opinion) then at least give us the choice of being able to turn it off on a per user basis.
Who's to say it's not working properly. Maybe some people have a sense of humour?

kiteless

12,557 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I must admit, one of the great things about the PH forums is (as has been alluded to) is the lack of avatars and sigs. This, of course, means that during work it just looks lie one is reading an e-mail (after scrolling quickly past the ads on the RHS of every thread).

However a post, or thread, with many swear words (words dictated by the incumbent swear filter) has a large number of red "marks" on the screen that will show that I am not reading an e-mail but browsing PH. Compare this with a local forum that I mod, which allows tt, bh, bullst. bks etc but which disallows the more extreme language examples.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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The thing is, this site belongs to somebody. It's not yours to do with as you wish therefore you have to abide by the rules. If Haymarket want to filter Scunthorpe then it's their ball and that's how they want you to play with it. smile

Strangely Brown

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15,691 posts

260 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Tyre Smoke said:
The thing is, this site belongs to somebody. It's not yours to do with as you wish therefore you have to abide by the rules.
I'm not asking to do with it as I please. I am asking to be allowed to read what has been written without having someone else decide for me what I can and cannot see. I am not even asking for it to be removed altogether, only that the individual user be allowed the choice of whether their viewing is censored or not.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Saturday 5th September 18:44

Kinky

39,943 posts

298 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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The day that happens is the day I leave PH.

Plus it would be blocked at work anyway - like most other companies. And would be the death knell for PH. All, so some morons can post unnecessary rude words rolleyes

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Tyre Smoke said:
The thing is, this site belongs to somebody. It's not yours to do with as you wish therefore you have to abide by the rules. If Haymarket want to filter Scunthorpe then it's their ball and that's how they want you to play with it. smile
Nice formatting wink

Strangely Brown

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15,691 posts

260 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Kinky said:
The day that happens is the day I leave PH.

Plus it would be blocked at work anyway - like most other companies. And would be the death knell for PH. All, so some morons can post unnecessary rude words rolleyes
You appear to misunderstand. I am not asking to be allowed to post rude words. I am asking to be allowed the choice to read what others have written without nanny saying, "poo is a rude word, you mustn't see it".

The filter can be on by default but the individual should be able to choose whether what they see is censored. To say that it would be the death of PH is a bit of an exaggeration at best.

Kinky

39,943 posts

298 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Strangely Brown said:
To say that it would be the death of PH is a bit of an exaggeration at best.
Really?

So you think it would be fine and fully acceptable for the majority of PHers who work in the city, and large corporates, and companies around the UK, and WW, to suddenly lose access to PH at work, as it has become a blacklisted site?

I suspect not. So no exaggeration.


Big Al.

69,336 posts

287 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Strangely Brown said:
You appear to misunderstand. I am not asking to be allowed to post rude words. I am asking to be allowed the choice to read what others have written without nanny saying, "poo is a rude word, you mustn't see it".

The filter can be on by default but the individual should be able to choose whether what they see is censored. To say that it would be the death of PH is a bit of an exaggeration at best.
From the horses (read Haymarket) mouth.

Mr Will said:
If PH was to end up on one of the major block lists then it could disappear from a large number of offices around the country overnight, regardless of whether the individual users had the swear-filter on or off.

The swearfilter is not new and I do not see what you stand to gain simply by being able to read a few rude words.
In other words "it ain't gonna happen" smile

Kinky

39,943 posts

298 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Big Al. said:
"it ain't gonna happen" smile
Thank censored for that wink

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Kinky said:
Strangely Brown said:
To say that it would be the death of PH is a bit of an exaggeration at best.
Really?

So you think it would be fine and fully acceptable for the majority of PHers who work in the city, and large corporates, and companies around the UK, and WW, to suddenly lose access to PH at work, as it has become a blacklisted site?

I suspect not. So no exaggeration.
I believe, personally speaking, that it's only a matter of time before PH ends up in the same web-filter category as sites like Facebook, and thus will be verboten at work for a lot of people.

That will be a st day, indeed.

Strangely Brown

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15,691 posts

260 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Big Al. said:
In other words "it ain't gonna happen" smile
OK. Well, if you're not prepared to stop nannying us and deciding for us which words are "rude" can you at least fix the bloody thing so that it doesn't filter words that have no "rude" value whatsoever? As it stands the only "morons" (your words, not mine) are those that compile the blacklist without a corresponding whitelist to correct the false positives.

Poledriver

29,587 posts

223 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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If it could be removed everyone would just start taking the piss!
The possibility that misuse could lead to PH being blocked is a very real one which none of us wants!

Edited to explain myself better... Sorry!

Edited by Poledriver on Saturday 5th September 21:53

Strangely Brown

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15,691 posts

260 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Poledriver said:
If it were removed everyone would just start taking the piss!
FFS! I wasn't asking for it to be removed.