Hookah/Shisha pipes.
Hookah/Shisha pipes.
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Big Rod

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6,265 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Recently bought one and liking it so far!

Anyone else got one?

Finding it's leaving a tarte/dry feelin on my tongue though. I've followed instructions on Youtube and taken advice from a friend, but it doesn't seem as smooth and flavouful as it did when I tried his.

Any suggestions?

The Riddler

6,565 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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What do you smoke in these?

Isnt it just a glorified bong?

Big Rod

Original Poster:

6,265 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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The Riddler said:
What do you smoke in these?

Isnt it just a glorified bong?
Don't think so.

I think a 'bong' is specifically for smoking cannabis. A Shisha/Hookah is for smoking tobacco. The tobacco is fairly 'exotic' in so much as it's mixed with fruit and mollases, <sp?>, but it's legitamate, <again SP?>.

Very pleasant it is too, but not portable like cigars or cigarettes. Oh, and it doesn't smell like the aforementioned either!!)

The Riddler

6,565 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Yeah, a bong is for cannabis.

Always wondered what a Hookah actually did though, and whether it was tobacco or something more, erm, exotic.. wink

shushu

48 posts

207 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Try putting ice cold water in the base that mite help. Also, make sure when you foil the bowl, the shiny side is facing downwards towards the tobacco as that helps to retain heat. You might want to try more smaller holes with a pin or a toothpick in the foil rather than bigger holes.

It also depends on what brand tobacco you are using as they all have their own individual properties. Try experimenting by using different amounts of coal aswell. Each shisha smokes differently so it might take you a while of experimenting to get the right balance for a perfect smoke.

Edited by shushu on Saturday 5th September 01:11

Big Rod

Original Poster:

6,265 posts

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Saturday 5th September 2009
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Cheers Shushu!

I have been 'experimenting'. Got the shiny side down bit already.

Found I had to 'modify' my pipe, (It's a genuine Egyptian one apparently, but nowhere near as impressive as my mate's one!), as it drew too much air to get a satisfying 'drag'.

Think I've got this one as good as I can. I think I need to 'upgrade' a bit. My mate's one is quite large, (OO-err!), and he buys tubs of tobacco as opposed to the packets I bought with my pipe.

I really like it. It doesn't stink the house out either and has given me something to frig about with while SWMBO watches Big Ballbag.

Big Rod

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6,265 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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And now my coal's run out!! smile

I'd be quite happy to sit up all night smoking, but I'm Mr Mum the morrow so need to reserve my stamina somewhat.

Still happy to hear of handy hints and tips though!!

shushu

48 posts

207 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Glad to hear you like it. If you have any more air leaks, try taping them up with insulation tape. It mite not look as good, but it works a treat.

wiffmaster

2,622 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Got a massive Shisha pipe at our Uni house, which we all use pretty much every night. After a couple of years of experimenting, we've concluded that the smoothest tobacco is Al-Faker. To make it as smooth as possible, the most important thing seems to be to make sure that you keep the top of the foil clear from the coal ash which forms and ensure you keep a good supply of red hot coals on the go. Oh, and giving it a good clean after use ensures it stays useable and tasting good...nothing worse than inhaling and getting a mouth full of ash/state tobacco because you've got dirty pipes!

We've found the best flavours to be strawberry, double apple (predictable) and mint (which is incredibly refreshing). We've also learnt to avoid any 'man made' flavours, as they all appear to be absolutely vile!yuck

Edit: Just remembered - poke many smaller holes in the foil, rather than fewer larger ones. Toothpick and the like are way too big. Needle is the best bet.

Edited by wiffmaster on Saturday 5th September 01:45

shushu

48 posts

207 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Yep, al fakher tobacco is by far the best, but we've been getting a few bad batches recently, flavour is not as consistent as it used to be. The price has shot up recently aswell.

Nakhla tobacco is a good alternative, its drier than than al fakher, but doesn't give as big clouds. I'm not really a fan of the american stuff like starbuzz.

What coals are you using? instant lights are good for a quick smoke or if your away from home, but they do give a dodgy chemical taste. If your using natural coals, check they have ashed over and red all the way through before you put them on. Dont put on too many coals as the will burn the tobacco and the smoke will be too harsh and taste horrible.

Norbury90

6,919 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I had use one of these for a bit when I was younger, my uncle informed me it didn't have tobacco in, so happily sat down and smoked myself silly. Bought 2, got home, opened them up and there was loads of warnings about health! Good fun before they were banished though.

dreamz

5,299 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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i managed to have one for 6 months and thankfully wifey never realised i had one!!

i cant add anything more really to the above

one thing that i thought was a nice touch was flavoured water - so if your having double apple - put some blackcurrent and apple cordial mix into the water with ice - damn smooth!

al fakhr is a hard to get to - the govt's been clamping down on imports as many shop owners dont pay tax which they should be hence the shooting of the price.

regular cleaning is also a must - avoid build up.

dont over stuff the tobacco too ie fill the holder about 3/4 full and dont squash it down

voyds9

8,490 posts

312 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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There is a good wiki article on this which I can't find at the moment.
Which iirc not only mentioned the ice water but also loosening the seal on one of the pipes to add extra air to the mixture to reduce some of the roughness.

Big Rod

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Saturday 5th September 2009
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shushu said:
Glad to hear you like it. If you have any more air leaks, try taping them up with insulation tape. It mite not look as good, but it works a treat.
I used some silicone sealer. It seems to have done the trick.

Big Rod

Original Poster:

6,265 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I found some 'tutorials on Youtube and followed them. They were a great help.

I have Nakhla tobacco, (got it with the pipe.), in apple and melon flavours. The melon's definitely smoother.

The main reason for my initial post was because although it's very nice, it's not quite as smooth as my mates one. He's mentioned about the gubamint clamping down on this tobacco too.

Good tip about the cleaning! Any tips on the best way to do it? I've just been running water through it.

wiffmaster

2,622 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Cleaning wise we just run some hot water through the pipes after every use. But, we have waterproof pipes - some are made from cardboard and will eventually disintegrate. No great hardship though, as they can be replaced for a couple of quid. You can also buy pipe cleaning rods, but we've not found it necessary.

As for tobacco imports getting harder - heard about this, but so far the police appear to have turned a blind eye to the hundreds of shops on Manchester's Curry Mile which sell all sorts or tobacco brands. Jolly good!

cobra kid

5,588 posts

269 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I tried an apple one in Bucharest.........lovely.

v15ben

16,219 posts

270 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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shushu said:
Yep, al fakher tobacco is by far the best
Amen to that. When I lived in Sydney my mate had several hookah pipes in his collection and we used to get sent a 2 word text message if he wanted a relaxing evening: 'Al Fakher?' smile

Ganglandboss

8,547 posts

232 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I had one in Berlin this year. We went into a Turkish bar we stumbled across. It was a bit strange; the downstairs was empty and we were hurried upstairs by one of the staff. One of the lads is in the Royal Marine Reserve and always seems to be watching everything around him. He wasn't very comfortable about going in there.

When we got upstairs all the windows were open and there were pipes on every table. When the waitress came over, she had one with here and offered it us. The owner came over very quickly and you could see from his hand gestures that he didn't want us to have that one. He took our drinks order and then offered us a couple of pipes. We all sampled it and I have to say I did enjoy it; it was very mellow and not one bit harsh like cigarettes/cigars.

We were winding the lad in the Marine Reserve up the next day by telling him there was opium in them. hehe

H_Kan

4,942 posts

228 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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As has been mentioned, Al Fakher is the one to go for. Nakhla is also not bad, but be warned, for the Al Fakher, be prepared to pay a fair whack. Some people sell it for £5-7 but these are usually imitations.

Also size of the pipe doesn't matter, I've smoked a couple which we about 6ft high and were awful. Best bet seems to be the standard ones which are around waist height.

Also, make sure you don't have too much coal on top and that your holes are very very small in the foil.

Finally give the combo of 2/3 strawberry to 1/3 mint a go, lovely.

This thread has me pining to be back in Egypt where I could get a shisha in a cafe for £1.20! The mrs and I found a local place and had far better shisha there then in the tourist spots. Ended up visiting 8 times in a week long stay!