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daddysumo

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2,545 posts

242 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Who else has a 5 speed box with him and been waiting weeks and weeks ??
I'm so annoyed its taken soooooo long !

mgbond

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261 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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daddysumo said:
Who else has a 5 speed box with him and been waiting weeks and weeks ??
I'm so annoyed its taken soooooo long !
5 spd?????, what happened the the 6spd?

Bondy

daddysumo

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242 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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My 6 speed is there with some one elses 5 speed just wondered if some one off here and if they been waiting ages like me ?

Steve

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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You coming down for brighton speed trials?

daddysumo

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242 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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mgbond said:
You coming down for brighton speed trials?


I'm back in the UK tomorrow hopefully, so could do....
will see what's going on when I get back and let you know.

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Thats not good , i,m going to send mine there later in the year !!! what are they saying ??

daddysumo

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242 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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The gearset is sent away to be shot peened etc and this has taken weeks longer than it should have done.
If I was waiting for it I would have been well pi**ed off.
It looks like I will need it very soon now though so cutting it a bit fine !

Steve

Lakelord

1,756 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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daddysumo said:
The gearset is sent away to be shot peened etc and this has taken weeks longer than it should have done.
If I was waiting for it I would have been well pi**ed off.
It looks like I will need it very soon now though so cutting it a bit fine !

Steve
Exact same thing happened with me Steve. Once they got the gear-set back from shot peeners tho, they turned it around pretty quickly.
I'm happy with the finished product but they're not great on the Customer Service angle.

daddysumo

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Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Lakelord said:
daddysumo said:
The gearset is sent away to be shot peened etc and this has taken weeks longer than it should have done.
If I was waiting for it I would have been well pi**ed off.
It looks like I will need it very soon now though so cutting it a bit fine !

Steve


Exact same thing happened with me Steve. Once they got the gear-set back from shot peeners tho, they turned it around pretty quickly.
I'm happy with the finished product but they're not great on the Customer Service angle.


Yes to be fair he has said that he will get it built up straight away when they come back so hopefully it wont be too long now.
Are you cooling yours ? If so how are you switching the pump ?

TuxMan

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267 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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are you guys fitting a electric oil cooler pump in the plow and return lines from the cooler ??

daddysumo

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Tuesday 8th September 2009
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TuxMan said:
are you guys fitting a electric oil cooler pump in the plow and return lines from the cooler ??


Yep got all the lines, pump, cooler etc but not sure if it sucks or blows till I read the instructions but would think it goes post cooler so it keeps the temp down.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Berni's gearbox's are worth the wait !

The devil

2,152 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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So whats a ball park figure for getting your gearbox sorted on a five speed

daddysumo

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Tuesday 8th September 2009
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The devil said:
So whats a ball park figure for getting your gearbox sorted on a five speed


Ball park figure is £1200 for a low mileage box that it's worth shot-peening.

Edited by daddysumo on Tuesday 8th September 16:43

TuxMan

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267 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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daddysumo said:
The devil said:
So whats a ball park figure for getting your gearbox sorted on a five speed
Ball park figure is £1200 for a low mileage box that it's worth shot-peening.

Edited by daddysumo on Tuesday 8th September 16:43
is that including the LSD ??

daddysumo

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Tuesday 8th September 2009
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TuxMan said:
daddysumo said:
The devil said:
So whats a ball park figure for getting your gearbox sorted on a five speed


Ball park figure is £1200 for a low mileage box that it's worth shot-peening.

Edited by daddysumo on Tuesday 8th September 16:43



is that including the LSD ??


No mine is a six speed so already has the LSD fitted.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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daddy - did you get the cooling pipes fitted at the same time ?

daddysumo

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Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Gadgeroonie said:
daddy - did you get the cooling pipes fitted at the same time ?


Yep sure did .

Richie350

344 posts

227 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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daddysumo said:
The devil said:
So whats a ball park figure for getting your gearbox sorted on a five speed
Ball park figure is £1200 for a low mileage box that it's worth shot-peening.

Edited by daddysumo on Tuesday 8th September 16:43
£1200, I would be asking for a full breakdown of the work, their is less than a couple of hundred pounds of replacement parts "if all require changing" no wonder they want low milage units!!!! Does anyone actually know by what percentage the gears are actually stronger and what process has been aplied to the gears to acheive any measurable increase in surface strength? Has anyone carried out meachanical testing to prove that the gear sets fitted to both boxes actually have been strengthend in anyway, well the answer is NO ,you are more likely to suffer bearing failure before gear sets breakdown!!! You would be wiser to buy a couple of replacment boxes and run then as a disposable item drivinghttp://www.shotpeener.com/library/pdf/1999049.pdf



Edited by Richie350 on Tuesday 8th September 23:17


Edited by Richie350 on Tuesday 8th September 23:39

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th September 2009
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CTS have been building stronger gearboxes for cars for many years and the owner himself is a keen clubman racer

they do not just replace the parts but modify the gearbox to increase oil flow to the bearings and fit double ball race bearings where possible

i can testify the work they do works - I had destroyed 6 gearboxes before I met them and was one of thier first customers for this type of treatment (not a noble - but a similar fwd ford gearbox) the gearbox they have built me has lasted nearly 8 years and has had some punishment in that time

the secret is making sure the bearings do not fail and are lubrcated constantly - if the bearings wear, the gears loose thier meshing capability and the gearbox will fail

there are plenty of stories of standard noble boxes failing - but to my knowledge a CTS gearbox has never failed

ask Adrian if he thinks a std Noble box would last very long in his car