Christian US Fundamentalism + Darwin Film = Ensuing Hilarity
Christian US Fundamentalism + Darwin Film = Ensuing Hilarity
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collateral

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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t'Article said:
US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution
t'Article said:
an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering"
t'Article said:
"That's what we're up against. In 2009. It's amazing," he said.

"The film has no distributor in America. It has got a deal everywhere else in the world but in the US, and it's because of what the film is about. People have been saying this is the best film they've seen all year, yet nobody in the US has picked it up."
The fact that Bill Hicks isn't around to rip the piss out of this probably just confirms that there is no god.

968

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265 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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collateral said:
The fact that Bill Hicks isn't around to rip the piss out of this probably just confirms that there is no god.
biggrin

Bill Hicks was a genius.

Edited by 968 on Sunday 13th September 02:15

collateral

Original Poster:

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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968 said:
collateral said:
The fact that Bill Hicks isn't around to rip the piss out of this probably just confirms that there is no god.
biggrin

Bill Hicks was a genius.

Edited by 968 on Sunday 13th September 02:15
Obligatory Hicks said:
You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really uninvolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes reeeeal close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet? 'I believe God created me in one day!' Yeah, looks like He rushed it...

T89 Callan

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210 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Yeah we need people like Bill Hicks, maybe America will just close itself off from the rest of the evolved world and we can all just get on with it.

collateral

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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T89 Callan said:
Yeah we need people like Bill Hicks, maybe America will just close itself off from the rest of the evolved world and we can all just get on with it.
He did the same few jokes again and again, but was definitely a genius.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the fact that the majority of Americans seem to believe there was a talking snake and that presumably humans co-existed with dinosaurs

Eric Mc

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282 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Majority - or just a vocal and well motivated minority?

D-Angle

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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It's times like this I wish Tim Minchin would tour the American deep south. biggrin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DXl68NF_uI

Eric Mc

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282 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.

andy_s

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276 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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America will go the way of the dinosaurs. Clubbed to death by Raquel Welsh.

Zod

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275 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
My feelings on the subject are the same as yours. When you cannot prove you are right, don't talk as if anyone with a different point of view is obviously a moron or evil.

ludo

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221 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Zod said:
Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
My feelings on the subject are the same as yours. When you cannot prove you are right, don't talk as if anyone with a different point of view is obviously a moron or evil.
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collateral

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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Somehow I find the peppered moth example a little easier to stomach than a talking snake and a woman made out of some bloke's rib.

Jasandjules

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246 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Religion worries me greatly, regardless of the form/type.

It never ceases to amaze me at the violence engaged upon by people in order to prove how benevolent their religion is......

ludo

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221 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Religion worries me greatly, regardless of the form/type.

It never ceases to amaze me at the violence engaged upon by people in order to prove how benevolent their religion is......
Although it should be noted that in most cases in doing so they are going against the basic teachings of their religion. Such acts are often more a reflection of basic human nature (for instance that power corrupts) rather than the religion itself as most religions encourage their followers to suppress such instincts rather than act on them.

s2art

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270 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
In what way is Dawkins an extremist?

ludo

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221 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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s2art said:
Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
In what way is Dawkins an extremist?
Can you give an example of a more extreme atheist or one that publicizes their views more actively and more stridently?

There are plenty of atheists that don't believe in God, but are content to allow others to take a different view without labeling them as delusional, so there are clearly more moderate atheists than Dawkins.

OnTheOverrun

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194 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Majority - or just a vocal and well motivated minority?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/Evolution-Creatio...

ewenm

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262 months

Sunday 13th September 2009
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s2art said:
Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
In what way is Dawkins an extremist?
Suggesting people who bring their children up in their (the parents) religion are "child abusers" could be considered an extremist viewpoint.

As Eric says, excellent when discussing the science, not so good when being evangelical.

Edited by ewenm on Sunday 13th September 14:58

OnTheOverrun

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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Zod said:
Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
My feelings on the subject are the same as yours. When you cannot prove you are right, don't talk as if anyone with a different point of view is obviously a moron or evil.
Well as one cannot prove a negative, Dawkins logically has nothing to prove. There has never been a single shred of evidence for the existence of any deity.

fluffnik

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Sunday 13th September 2009
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ludo said:
s2art said:
Eric Mc said:
Extemists of any sort or easy targets fior humour. Dawkins, in his own way, is an extremist too. I have little time for either camp in the extreme corners of this debate - although I like Dawkins when he sticks to his science output.
In what way is Dawkins an extremist?
Can you give an example of a more extreme atheist or one that publicizes their views more actively and more stridently?
I reckon Dawkins is more Christian than me. smile

ludo said:
There are plenty of atheists that don't believe in God, but are content to allow others to take a different view without labeling them as delusional, so there are clearly more moderate atheists than Dawkins.
The failing might be mine, but, like Dawkins, I cannot see how religious faith differs from any other delusional belief in imaginary friends...