Summer Roof?
Summer Roof?
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powelly

Original Poster:

490 posts

311 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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Has anyone thought of producing a collapsable roof for the griff/chimp/tamora that works along the lines of that fitted to the vx220 and elise?

Yes, you wouldn't have the rigidity or style but if it was for the summer weekend runs, then you would gain a boot!

I'm no engineer so I haven't got drawings etc.. but I no what a benefit it would be.

Any thoughts... Leven/Zertec.. your thoughts are invited?

Craig
Griff 500

kerniki

430 posts

311 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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I had an automatic summer roof the other day!
it blew off the car at 120 mph, BANG! 60 ft in the air, crossed both lanes of dual cariageway, and landed neatley in thne grass, but your idea sounds better!!!

Nik

sipow

14,706 posts

296 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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oops how'd that happen??

kerniki

430 posts

311 months

Tuesday 12th March 2002
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Doh! fitted it incorectly, in a hurry, lesson learned £85.00

MikeyT

18,381 posts

300 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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I thought Clive at Zertec was looking at this already?

richb

56,275 posts

313 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Wedge Automotive offer a 2 x piece roof for the Griffith/Chimaera in their web catalogue http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/shpub/wcat18.html having had an S I can see how it would be easier to fit in the boot, but I have yet to see or hear from anyone who has one. R...

powelly

Original Poster:

490 posts

311 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Yep, the wedge solution would appear to be halfway to where I was thinking.... the benefits of a flexi' hood are obvious as it would take up very little boot space (or even fold behind a seat??), but then the nightmare is fitting the damn thing in a hurry.

Clive, have you looked into this?

f402mlr

1,483 posts

299 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Many years ago a 'home made' version, for an S, was shown in Sprint. This consisted of 4 front to back pieces of shaped wood (?), mounted between the mounting lugs, with fabric covering the space between. The "roof" could then be rolled up into a bundle of sticks when not in use.

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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Dan Myers had a home made item like that on his S. Enough to keep the rain off (not out) and fabricated by himself. I'd love something like that but I suspect a fair amount of work would have to be put into coming up with something really effective.

powelly

Original Poster:

490 posts

311 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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I'll try and get down to a Vauxhall garage this weekend with my camera... to see exactly how their system operates....

I would imagine there would be a reasonable market for this as the Tamora still appears to have an element of skill in stowing the hood...

But the price would have to be sub £200 I think to appeal to a wide audience...?

powelly

Original Poster:

490 posts

311 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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I guess for anyone to pick up the manufacture of these there would have to be a general idea of how many would be interested..... what do you think?

nubbin

6,809 posts

307 months

Wednesday 13th March 2002
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We discussed this idea last year - my idea was effectively the front and rear edges of the hard top, strung with roof fabric between, then clipped to the rear rigid hoop by over-centre clips. This was tensioned by one or two of the usual alloy struts, which, when extended, were flat to the inside of the roof, and the whole lot would fold behind the seats. The struts would push against the top edge of the windscreen to form the seal. I'm sure it could be done, and I would certainly buy one.

JonRB

80,044 posts

301 months

Monday 18th March 2002
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Indeed. In a fine example of parallel evolution I had much the same idea. I think we both mentioned it to Clive, but I suspect he's busy enough as it is at the moment.

Regards
Jon

kevinday

13,832 posts

309 months

Monday 18th March 2002
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Leave the roof panel at home? OK here in sunny Hungary, maybe not so good in wet old UK!

powelly

Original Poster:

490 posts

311 months

Monday 18th March 2002
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Well it seems similar thoughts all round. Clive is interested in making one if he had enough interest.... but only 5 interested parties I don't think would swing it... guess we'd need to see some form of demo... Clive?

mm.. as for leaving the roof at home, did that yesterday and got soaked!!!!!! Ah wel...

Griffithy

929 posts

305 months

Tuesday 19th March 2002
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Well it seems similar thoughts all round. Clive is interested in making one if he had enough interest.... but only 5 interested parties I don't think would swing it... guess we'd need to see some form of demo... Clive?


Count me too, please!

barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Does anyone know if anything came of this?

If not, can somebody offer me a suggestion (no, be nice!)
I'm going to have a play around in the spring at making front and rear sections which sit into the usual roof slots, then use ali struts running front to back to join them together.
The only thing I cant think of is something to put into the front and rear sections to stop the ali punching into them. I'm thinking of something sort of top hat shaped so theres a proper cup for the strut to sit into and a lip to stop it punching in. About a dozen monopoly top hats would be perfect!
Anybody got any suggestions about this - or even the entire project?

Griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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barreti said:
Does anyone know if anything came of this?

If not, can somebody offer me a suggestion (no, be nice!)
I'm going to have a play around in the spring at making front and rear sections which sit into the usual roof slots, then use ali struts running front to back to join them together.
The only thing I cant think of is something to put into the front and rear sections to stop the ali punching into them. I'm thinking of something sort of top hat shaped so theres a proper cup for the strut to sit into and a lip to stop it punching in. About a dozen monopoly top hats would be perfect!
Anybody got any suggestions about this - or even the entire project?


Anywhere else, someone reading that would call the white coats!!

For the "front and rear sections which sit into the usual roof slots" it's got to be easiest to cut up an old targa section.
For the 'monopoly top hats' I'd suggest rummaging around a hardware store (the "open all hours" kind not the Robert Dyas kind) to find something suitable. Maybe something like a suitably designed drawer knob? I bet it'd be called a 'spigot cap' or something. I love this kind of modification!!

barreti

6,689 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st December 2006
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Griffter said:

Anywhere else, someone reading that would call the white coats!!

Ha Ha PMSL

Although the idea of cutting up a roof panel is good, they are a bit expensive to go chopping up - and scarce for that matter.
If I could figure out a way to take a mould quickly I'd get one sharpish before my now repaired roof goes off for recovering.

It is really getting my goat now only having the hard panel roof for the summer. Especially seeing Elises with their fabric jobbie, and even a bleeding smart roadster has a 2-piece panel roof. I don't really care if the fabric roof is just an emergency get home thing you can only use at low speeds I'm going to have a go anyway

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Friday 22nd December 2006
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This one keeps bouncing around in our heads doesnt it Ian nuts

How about something like tent material with 4-6 flat metal strips ( 2mmm thick and say 30mm wide) sewn in front to back that sit in the grove either end. Could have a couple width ways too that rotate from the dead centre ( Strip) outwards ( to the side of the car) to give a bit more strength.
Would roll up nice and small. or if you could use similiar thing with a scissor action( like garden trellis )

BB