Plot holes/ inaccuracies that annoy you.
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So what stupidity in books or movies pisses you off the most? (This is in no way influenced by the Dan Brown thread...;) )
I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter b
ks.
Over to you.
I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter b
ks.Over to you.
Although I usually do actually like the films...
Usually American Films where the Americans always save the world and the villains are nearly always Russian or English, why?!
If 'aliens' came to Earth why would they always base their attack on the USA huh!
I also hate that in a lot of films men are made to look stupid and women always made to be in the right.
Usually American Films where the Americans always save the world and the villains are nearly always Russian or English, why?!
If 'aliens' came to Earth why would they always base their attack on the USA huh!
I also hate that in a lot of films men are made to look stupid and women always made to be in the right.
hondafanatic said:
There are many I could list, however, this one was discussed in the office today: Independence Day - upload a virus to the mother ship - it's difficult enough to get a PC to talk to a fking printer, never mind uploading a virus to an unknown system’s architecture.
Just an homage to (ripoff from) 'War of the Worlds' I thought?king printer, never mind uploading a virus to an unknown system’s architecture.The way that CGI seems to have given licence to film makers to make things completely beyond the realm of even the stupidest possibility.
One springing to mind is a scene in Die Hard 3 when Bruce Willis is
a) Shot at in a truck by a fighter jet and, despite damage, is able to continue
and then
b) falls out of said truck on to the jet in mid air and manages to balance on the back before jumping off onto the road.
It just loses all credibility on an already not-all-that-great film. It seems to be par for the course on action films now though to cover up a lack of ideas/ingenuity
One springing to mind is a scene in Die Hard 3 when Bruce Willis is
a) Shot at in a truck by a fighter jet and, despite damage, is able to continue
and then
b) falls out of said truck on to the jet in mid air and manages to balance on the back before jumping off onto the road.
It just loses all credibility on an already not-all-that-great film. It seems to be par for the course on action films now though to cover up a lack of ideas/ingenuity
True Lies where Arnie backs the tail of the Harrier in to that building. I mean, come on. I know they can survive a few cannon shells through the tail (as proved in the Falklands), but I don't think demolishing the side of a building with the back end would render it still airworthy.
I watched "The Damned United" on DVD the other night. In 1973, when Brian Clough went off to Brighton, all the old folks were wearing Clarks shoes circa 1990 to the present. I seem to remember that in the 1970's all the old boys used to wear Oxfords with the toe-caps polished to a shine you could see your face in!
I also remember that Clough's (and everybody else's) teeth weren't that white or well aligned either.
Small but irritating (the details, not me)
I also remember that Clough's (and everybody else's) teeth weren't that white or well aligned either.
Small but irritating (the details, not me)
hondafanatic said:
There are many I could list, however, this one was discussed in the office today: Independence Day - upload a virus to the mother ship - it's difficult enough to get a PC to talk to a fking printer, never mind uploading a virus to an unknown system’s architecture.
There's a good chance it'll be running Windows.king printer, never mind uploading a virus to an unknown system’s architecture.Where do I start?
U-571...
Enigma and associated documents containing key material were first recovered from a U-boat in May 1941 — before the United States' entry into World War II — by the British who captured U-110. The British also captured material from U-559 in 1942. The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505 (the U.S. Navy's first capture of an enemy vessel at sea in 129 years).
The film caused irritation in Britain. Critics argued that U-571 failed to portray history correctly because, in total, there were some 15 captures of Naval Enigma material during World War II, of which the Americans and Canadians each carried out one (U-505 and U-774, respectively), while the British performed the rest. While the British captures from submarines and weather trawlers provided critical information for breaking Enigma, by the time of the American and Canadian captures, the Allies were reading Naval Enigma routinely. Moreover, the American capture of U-505 by a destroyer captain on the eve of D-Day might have jeopardized Operation Overlord. However, as acknowledged by the film-makers, the story of the film is entirely fictional.
U-571...
Enigma and associated documents containing key material were first recovered from a U-boat in May 1941 — before the United States' entry into World War II — by the British who captured U-110. The British also captured material from U-559 in 1942. The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505 (the U.S. Navy's first capture of an enemy vessel at sea in 129 years).
The film caused irritation in Britain. Critics argued that U-571 failed to portray history correctly because, in total, there were some 15 captures of Naval Enigma material during World War II, of which the Americans and Canadians each carried out one (U-505 and U-774, respectively), while the British performed the rest. While the British captures from submarines and weather trawlers provided critical information for breaking Enigma, by the time of the American and Canadian captures, the Allies were reading Naval Enigma routinely. Moreover, the American capture of U-505 by a destroyer captain on the eve of D-Day might have jeopardized Operation Overlord. However, as acknowledged by the film-makers, the story of the film is entirely fictional.
Justayellowbadge said:
So what stupidity in books or movies pisses you off the most? (This is in no way influenced by the Dan Brown thread...;) )
I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter bks.
Over to you.
39 Symbols apparently according to wikipedia (and scifi nerds who use wikipedia are likely to get this right as they get off on obscure scifi minutae).I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter b
ks.Over to you.
39 x 38 x 37 x 36 x 35 x 34 = a 1 in 2349088560 chance of getting any one combination.
There have been 7 seasons of the show i think, and assuming they go to one place every episode, and yanks usually make 26 episodes in a series that means 182 gates.
What you would need to know is how many stargates there are in the galaxy, considering that although the galaxy has very many planets the probability of a planet being habitable is not a lot, and not all habitable planets according to the plot have stargates, and not all the stargates that are there actually work. Divide the above by that number and you then know the probability of successfully wardialling a gate.
Lets be generous and say there are 2000 working gates in one galaxy, that means there is a 1 in 1174544.28 chance of dialling a working gate each time, dialling once a minute it would likely take 2.23 years to hit an active gate.
That and according to the plot they did manage to hit a valid combination by dialling randomly but covered it up when the person who went through was lost as he couldn't dial back, which may have put them off doing further wardialling of the gate.
Lets add anything where they try to use computers in a TV show or film - They usually use them to do impossible things, get terminology massively wrong and generally annoy the hell out of computer techs worldwide.
NCIS, CSI and all action films are massive massive culprits of this; in fact the only time I have seen something attempting to be accurate was one of the hack scenes in one of the Matrix sequals.
NCIS, CSI and all action films are massive massive culprits of this; in fact the only time I have seen something attempting to be accurate was one of the hack scenes in one of the Matrix sequals.
sadako said:
Justayellowbadge said:
So what stupidity in books or movies pisses you off the most? (This is in no way influenced by the Dan Brown thread...;) )
I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter bks.
Over to you.
39 Symbols apparently according to wikipedia (and scifi nerds who use wikipedia are likely to get this right as they get off on obscure scifi minutae).I caught some of the original Stargate movie for the first time in years the other night.
There is a scene where the dashing archeologist has decoded what the symbols on the Stargate mean, and they fire it up.
Cue elongated sequence as they lock in and encode the first six symbols.
"This is as far as we have ever been able to get before" says old timer to bright eyed Spadernewbie.
And lo and behold, his analysis means they get the thing to work, as the final symbol drops into place.
Thing is, there are a maximum of 30 symbols on the bloody thing, and they've been at it decades.
Once they got the first 6, how hard would a little trial and error on the remianing symbols have been?
Utter b
ks.Over to you.
39 x 38 x 37 x 36 x 35 x 34 = a 1 in 2349088560 chance of getting any one combination.
There have been 7 seasons of the show i think, and assuming they go to one place every episode, and yanks usually make 26 episodes in a series that means 182 gates.
What you would need to know is how many stargates there are in the galaxy, considering that although the galaxy has very many planets the probability of a planet being habitable is not a lot, and not all habitable planets according to the plot have stargates, and not all the stargates that are there actually work. Divide the above by that number and you then know the probability of successfully wardialling a gate.
Lets be generous and say there are 2000 working gates in one galaxy, that means there is a 1 in 1174544.28 chance of dialling a working gate each time, dialling once a minute it would likely take 2.23 years to hit an active gate.
That and according to the plot they did manage to hit a valid combination by dialling randomly but covered it up when the person who went through was lost as he couldn't dial back, which may have put them off doing further wardialling of the gate.
Justayellowbadge said:
So what stupidity in books or movies pisses you off the most?
I know it's a throwaway Will Smith vehicle, but by christ, Independence Day was a load of auld bowlocks.Must remember to pack my Apple lappie in case of alien invasion. It's compatible, dontcha know!
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