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The problem lies in the fact that NS wants £15m for the TVR name! With every day that passes, the TVR brand depreciates as it falls further from memory.
I've heard that he's approached various people in the trade and said to them that if they can get 10 £10k deposits, he'll build the cars (Tuscan Convertible). How, where and when is not known.
He's still in dreamland if he thinks he's any hope of recouping his losses. Especially in this day and age.
I've heard that he's approached various people in the trade and said to them that if they can get 10 £10k deposits, he'll build the cars (Tuscan Convertible). How, where and when is not known.
He's still in dreamland if he thinks he's any hope of recouping his losses. Especially in this day and age.
The name retention thing is not intended to get in the way of re-launch - there is no re-launch. He has hung on to the TVR name so that one day when someone decides that TVR is a great name of old to rekindle in the same way as Jensen and all the other ones that this has happened to, he can sell them it and make a load of cash. If NS brought the co back now they would need to clear up all the messy details, probably restart production with Sag and maybe Tusc, and the onus would be on him to make it as good and better than before and to keep the old guard and the new guard happy whilst conforming to various regs and legislation that has emerged in the intervening period. It's a tall, if not impossible order. He would be bound to the mistakes and inefficiencies of the past, yet have to embrace the future - and make it all work. The world has moved on. This isn't a matter of cash, I don't think TVRs in their recent form would be a goer. People remember the good things and not so much the bad - rose tinted specs. If you leave it a good few years, the slate is clean, and you can start afresh; and all the residual owner and brand-champion animosity would have gone and you can come up with some new designs, cars and new manufacturing practices and methods and business models that are not so true to how they were before, but the ones that care will have forgotten or will have gone.
TVRUnoficialBlog said:
NDT said:
Does anyone know what the situation is with TVR?
Is the company totally dead or are they progressing stuff with the Italians and Ricardo?
ITALIANS???? Why I don't know anything? What Italian fellow wants to restart production???Is the company totally dead or are they progressing stuff with the Italians and Ricardo?
Edited by V8 GRF on Monday 21st September 13:19
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
V8 GRF said:
TVRUnoficialBlog said:
NDT said:
Does anyone know what the situation is with TVR?
Is the company totally dead or are they progressing stuff with the Italians and Ricardo?
ITALIANS???? Why I don't know anything? What Italian fellow wants to restart production???Is the company totally dead or are they progressing stuff with the Italians and Ricardo?
Edited by V8 GRF on Monday 21st September 13:19
NDT said:
V8 GRF said:
VERY old news from early 2007. Rumours abounded that Bertone had been approached to build cars. Either not true and/or scotched by Bertone themselves going into bankruptcy.
IIRC they signed the contract to outsource vehicle build to Bertone.stimshady said:
V8 GRF said:
NS just recently laid off all the remaining staff. Negotiations 'supposedly ongoing' with a third party to do I know not what.
Don't hold you breath.....
are you sure about this, i heard sketchy, potential details to say otherwise. Don't hold you breath.....
Edited by V8 GRF on Monday 21st September 14:59
V8 GRF said:
NDT said:
V8 GRF said:
VERY old news from early 2007. Rumours abounded that Bertone had been approached to build cars. Either not true and/or scotched by Bertone themselves going into bankruptcy.
IIRC they signed the contract to outsource vehicle build to Bertone.julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
All together now... 911!The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
bsdnazz said:
julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
All together now... 911!The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
cloggy said:
bsdnazz said:
julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
All together now... 911!The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Its no co-incidence that lotus did a lot of +2 cars. Lots of people like me could never really have a pure two seater. The money's in two seaters that you could convince the other half are practical. That means +2 at the very least and percieved reliability. Sad as it may be that counts for a lot.
julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Market it as what, a 10 year out of date failed GT car that cost the factory a fortune to build but now has a state of the art V8...?The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Think Lotus and the thing that springs to mind is 2+2 cars........er, no. Think of Lotuses biggest failures and think 2+2.
TVR_owner said:
julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Market it as what, a 10 year out of date failed GT car that cost the factory a fortune to build but now has a state of the art V8...?The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Think Lotus and the thing that springs to mind is 2+2 cars........er, no. Think of Lotuses biggest failures and think 2+2.
As ridiculous as the rear two seats on a Cerb are, they are still better than nothing.
As far as the failed GT car comment goes, have you ever driven a Cerb, or for that matter do you follow the tuscan challenge racing?
julian64 said:
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
With respect, cobblers. TVR were at their peak with two two seaters, the Griffith (with free medallion) and the more successful Chim (with free panzee). The boom in the City helped enormously, but we've got Gordon this time 'round.Either way, going back to a +2 model, no matter how mighty, that wasn't a huge seller the first time isn't a good commercial decision.
He'll hang on to the name, I suspect, to try to recoup his losses.
julian64 said:
TVR_owner said:
julian64 said:
The sag and the tuscan were never the future of TVR.
The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Market it as what, a 10 year out of date failed GT car that cost the factory a fortune to build but now has a state of the art V8...?The only way TVR would make a comeback is to go back to the Cerbera, instil a Chevy engine and market that.
Think Lotus and the thing that springs to mind is 2+2 cars........er, no. Think of Lotuses biggest failures and think 2+2.
As ridiculous as the rear two seats on a Cerb are, they are still better than nothing.
As far as the failed GT car comment goes, have you ever driven a Cerb, or for that matter do you follow the tuscan challenge racing?
I notice you only comment on the two rediculous rear seats and forget the rediculous front seat (passenger side).
Do I follow the Tuscan challenge, yes not missed a round all year.
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