Need a copy of Adobe Photoshop
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Ted will get the IP address of the clients visiting the web site through the logs. He's also able to trace username -> IP so presumably the site itself logs the information when people log in. When you've got the IP address a reverse lookup will get the name from the IP address (or traceroute to get an idea of the general vicinity).
DJ
>> Edited by _DJ_ on Thursday 8th January 12:37
DJ
>> Edited by _DJ_ on Thursday 8th January 12:37
Chaps,
To clear this up, I am not a Journalist working at the Motor Show, or a Law Enforcement Officer attempting to report anybody or for that matter, a person involved in any kind of criminal activity.
Quite simply, I am a Law abiding citizen who is attempting to get hold of a copy of Adobe Photoshop. I have now decided to purchase a copy from a local pc store.
I note however that a number of people using this forum use either Kazaa and other p2p sites and so was just curious as I haven't used these sites before. My understanding after having conducting a little research, is that the majority are compliant with UK law.
Hope that this clears this up.
Regards,
AD
p.s. I emailed Ted stating the above.
To clear this up, I am not a Journalist working at the Motor Show, or a Law Enforcement Officer attempting to report anybody or for that matter, a person involved in any kind of criminal activity.
Quite simply, I am a Law abiding citizen who is attempting to get hold of a copy of Adobe Photoshop. I have now decided to purchase a copy from a local pc store.
I note however that a number of people using this forum use either Kazaa and other p2p sites and so was just curious as I haven't used these sites before. My understanding after having conducting a little research, is that the majority are compliant with UK law.
Hope that this clears this up.
Regards,
AD
p.s. I emailed Ted stating the above.
_DJ_ said:
When you've got the IP address a reverse lookup will get the name from the IP address (or traceroute to get an idea of the general vicinity).
When I put an IP number into this site: www.energis.com/service/search.asp I get the name of the ISP. Is that what you mean? Tracing an e-mail to 'Hotmail' isn't much use!
simpo two said:
When you've got the IP address a reverse lookup will get the name from the IP address (or traceroute to get an idea of the general vicinity).
When I put an IP number into this site: www.energis.com/service/search.asp I get the name of the ISP. Is that what you mean? Tracing an e-mail to 'Hotmail' isn't much use!
ah, but in the mail headers, hotmail add an entry that tells you the IP that the mail sender was using when they sent the mail. you can trace this to their ISP.....
The line looks like:
X-Originating-IP: [X.X.X.X]
This is quite a fun/useful traceroute tool:
[url]http://visualroute.visualware.co.uk[/url]
[url]http://visualroute.visualware.co.uk[/url]
I normally use www.dnsstuff.com/ very very useful
BTW Adrenalin you can get older versions of photoshop on cover CD's etc for next to nothing often worth looking as it is fecking expensive, although there is no better tool outthere IMHO
>> Edited by dontlift on Thursday 8th January 15:52
BTW Adrenalin you can get older versions of photoshop on cover CD's etc for next to nothing often worth looking as it is fecking expensive, although there is no better tool outthere IMHO
>> Edited by dontlift on Thursday 8th January 15:52
TheHobbit said:
ah, but in the mail headers, hotmail add an entry that tells you the IP that the mail sender was using when they sent the mail. you can trace this to their ISP.....
OK, so that might lead you to (say) Freeserve. So I suppose all you can do is report spam to them and then they sort it out from there and rap the guys knuckles?
simpo two said:
ah, but in the mail headers, hotmail add an entry that tells you the IP that the mail sender was using when they sent the mail. you can trace this to their ISP.....
OK, so that might lead you to (say) Freeserve. So I suppose all you can do is report spam to them and then they sort it out from there and rap the guys knuckles?
yeah. basically, isps should keep some kind of logs for a short period so that they can trace who had what ip when. they may also log the phone number your modem was calling from at the time. some isps are quite good at responding to spam, others aren't. usual policy is to cut the spammer off if there is sufficient evidence of intended spam, sometimes there are second chances, sometimes not.. it really depends on the isps policy. most publish their policy and acceptable usage policy.
other ways to report spam include registering for a spamcop style account and/or reporting spam to them.
i've performed the role of "abuse master" for the company I work for in the past, and one of our products is an anti-spam product, so if I can answer any questions on this or anti-virus, just shout and I'll *try* my best.
cheers,
karl
TheHobbit said:
TheHobbit said:
ah, but in the mail headers, hotmail add an entry that tells you the IP that the mail sender was using when they sent the mail. you can trace this to their ISP.....
OK, so that might lead you to (say) Freeserve. So I suppose all you can do is report spam to them and then they sort it out from there and rap the guys knuckles?
yeah. basically, isps should keep some kind of logs for a short period so that they can trace who had what ip when. they may also log the phone number your modem was calling from at the time. some isps are quite good at responding to spam, others aren't. usual policy is to cut the spammer off if there is sufficient evidence of intended spam, sometimes there are second chances, sometimes not.. it really depends on the isps policy. most publish their policy and acceptable usage policy.
other ways to report spam include registering for a spamcop style account and/or reporting spam to them.
i've performed the role of "abuse master" for the company I work for in the past, and one of our products is an anti-spam product, so if I can answer any questions on this or anti-virus, just shout and I'll *try* my best.
cheers,
karl
I'd almost agree with that. It's not a short period of time though. Extensive logs are kept. I could probably get the phone numbers of all the lines that were used to call Freeserve over the last year for my account(which is as long as I've had the account). Most ISP's take reports of spam/abusive mail/hacking very seriously and have dedicated teams devoted to dealing with queries. The last thing that an ISP needs is to get blacklisted when one of their customers repeatedly sending spam.
_DJ_ said:
I'd almost agree with that. It's not a short period of time though. Extensive logs are kept. I could probably get the phone numbers of all the lines that were used to call Freeserve over the last year for my account(which is as long as I've had the account). Most ISP's take reports of spam/abusive mail/hacking very seriously and have dedicated teams devoted to dealing with queries. The last thing that an ISP needs is to get blacklisted when one of their customers repeatedly sending spam.
agreed, but in my experience for every isp that takes it seriously, there are a small collection that don't give a rats ar5e. that said, 99% of UK isps are extremely good... but all the worst spam either comes through compromised pcs in legit places, or from places that really don't care about spam (russia, and large bits of asia for starters).
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