If Britain's so bad.....
If Britain's so bad.....
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R60EST

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2,364 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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where would you prefer to live ?

Here is a hypothetical scenario which just happens to fit my current mindset and circumstances.

You are fed up of being taxed to the eyeballs in return for very little. You want to sell everything you own , pay any outstanding debts and leave the UK with a pot of cash and the clothes you stand in .You have no dependent children but *may* consider taking the wife . Assume your pot of cash is £250-350k. You are in your early 40's with some degree of skill and overall business aptitude but not necessarily looking to use them in the near future.

Which country would you go to and how would you make your stash work for you in terms of finding property to live in and a reasonable standard of living , one you could sustain even if you chose not to work for some time , if ever.


Brilad

598 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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New Zealand is great, people have a 'can do' attitude, and it has a small population so they need all sorts of skilled people.

Japanese rice rockets are also cheap and plentiful!

Dupont666

22,887 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Singapore, thent he whole of Asia is within easy reach....

Climates not to bad and the government doesnt screw you over unless you are chewing gum or playing with stink fruit.

Cons are that its a little sterile.

But hey....

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Australia or New Zealand.

Republik

4,525 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Doesn't New Zealand have the highest suicide rate in the world?

I'd pick Singapore.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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America, similar standard of living except houses, V8s and petrol are far cheaper.

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Ireland? smile

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Depends what you like doing.

I'd be heading somewhere mountainous, so the Alps (perhaps Geneva or Zurich as I can get work there with my current skills) or maybe the Canadian Rockies. For British citizens, European and Commonwealth countries are a bit easier than others in terms of visas etc.

£250k-£350k isn't much to set up a new life without needing to work, so I'd need either to go somewhere my current skills are useful or set up a new business in my target area.

Personally I'm pretty happy with the UK as long as I stay out of the overcrowded South-East.

Blackpig2

626 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Oz, in a heartbeat. cool

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Panama

DIW35

4,204 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Republik said:
Doesn't New Zealand have the highest suicide rate in the world?

I'd pick Singapore.
Singapore is extremely car unfriendly, with swingeing taxes on purchase, and another hefty tax bill if you want to keep a car that is 10 years old or more.

R60EST

Original Poster:

2,364 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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EDLT said:
America, similar standard of living except houses, V8s and petrol are far cheaper.
I went to America in 2001 , stayed in a rented villa near Orlando , loved the place so much I considered moving out there . Garden maintenance / pool cleaning seemed to be the obvious easy start businesses over there , went back in 2003 with enough money in place to give it a go but the world and his wife seemed to have had the same idea , the place we stayed had in just 2 years seen 1000's of new holiday lets built with nearly as many garden / pool maintenance companies all trying to find work .

Most of these new builds were empty with less than 1 in 10 ( at least where we were ) being occupied. So that was an end to that idea.

My own skills are in joinery / glazing with a grasp of plumbing and electrics and project management,although I have no certification for either . I'd prefer to go into a new venture at some point if I did emigrate.

I know someone who has had a place built in Thailand , he's never actually been out to it yet , his brother who lives there has overseen all the work and has even found a long term tenant for him until he decides to move out there for good

If the figures he's quoted for the build and cost of living are true then it's definitely a place I'd consider , but tourism ,in particular dive schools seem to be the main form of income, something I'm not that passionate about. Having tried scuba in Turkey and Egypt it's a great prospect for a hobby but not something I feel would suit me commercially

Stu R

21,638 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Probably the US, it's certainly far from perfect, but it's such a vast diverse place with so many great places it'd be rude not to. Sweden or Finland would also rate pretty highly on my list.

Arese

21,350 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Stu R said:
Probably the US, it's certainly far from perfect, but it's such a vast diverse place with so many great places it'd be rude not to.
That.

America is great, it's like ten different countries in one. Kinda thing.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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New Zealand. South Island. Not too far from Christchurch so you've got a "city" you can go to shop and work. Stunning. And every weekend you could get to somewhere else fascinating and different.

But you will need money. yes And work. If you are taking along skills and experience NZ could do with that shouldn't be a problem.


Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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£350K hmmm.

Are you thinking Sri Lanka or equivalent to stretch your money out as long as possible?

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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I have relatives in Canada already so that might be a good place to start.
I loved Malaysia. Great climate etc.

Always fancied the IOM too!
It ignores the EU, has no speed limits and is essentially English in every other way.


T5SOR

2,030 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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South of France. Good food, wine, weather and beaches.

What more do you want?

Chilli

17,320 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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New Zeland, as it happens!

CRA2Y

2,632 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Split between US and Thailand, so next year will probably spend a fair amount of time in Thailand (it's cheaper - rent nice modern (year old) apartment in centre of town for £10 a night), + some time in the US (Florida, California, Vegas etc). Eventually, I'd expect to spend less time in the UK than abroad - because it's so tedious and dull and expensive.

But the UK really sucks - anytime they talk about new taxes, they make the country worse. If the country was improoving, tax would go down. It hasn't improved in a while.


Biggest thing to remember is that wherever you go, you are also there! The US has lots to offer, but the regular Joes still moan about things same as here. So if you moan about stuff here, you'll probably find things to moan about there. If you tie yourself into their ecconomy, with a regular 9-5, wife and mortgage, you'll probably not see much difference.