Dangerous numpties - M11 crash, today.
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Grrrr !! bloody idiots lane swapping and messing around, sudden braking, and foolish lady behind me decides to make violent contact with the Shogun. With a Festa.
Result - her car totally trashed, Shogun bumper battered. I drove home...
Anyone see it? I'm not narked at her, but the bloody dangerous people in front who made it all happen.
Oh yeah, no one was speeding!
A classic case of driving too close, and me discovering the reason why I will always choose a 4x4 from this point. Well, apart from the bike.
Got a headache & neck feels sore. Bit of a sod really.
C
Result - her car totally trashed, Shogun bumper battered. I drove home...
Anyone see it? I'm not narked at her, but the bloody dangerous people in front who made it all happen.
Oh yeah, no one was speeding!
A classic case of driving too close, and me discovering the reason why I will always choose a 4x4 from this point. Well, apart from the bike.
Got a headache & neck feels sore. Bit of a sod really.
C
actually the m25->m11 north junction *would* benefit from a lower limit. I never would say it normally, but the idiocy of the drivers involved up front & merging left a lot to be desired. The cars in front of me had no choice as they got "pulled out on". So they braked. I had to, and clearly I had left enough room as I slowed enough to avoid rear-ending the car in front.
Poor woman was really upset - felt sorry for her to be honest. The perpetrators all pissed off.
My neck is tender now. Do I make an injury claim or not?
C
Poor woman was really upset - felt sorry for her to be honest. The perpetrators all pissed off.
My neck is tender now. Do I make an injury claim or not?
C
rospa said:
The last person to run into back of me totally disintegrated the front of her Honda Civic.
The damage to my Mercedes was a cracked bumper.
The last person to run into me (famous last words?
) destroyed the front end of her Merc 300. The Jeep suffered a scratch on the bumper
Even funnier was that her insurers arranged for the repair (and loan car) and sent a low loader for the Jeep. The low-loader driver asked where the car was he had come to take away. I pointed to the Jeep and showed him the damage. "Bloody 'ell!" he said, "From the damage to the Merc I thought it would be a carry-away job for the car it 'it!"
Streaky
>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 8th January 21:54
hertsbiker said:Yes, absolutely! My (then) fiance and I were teh meat in a sandwich 30+ years ago. She suffered some stiffness in her neck but wouldn't see a doctor. It turned out (20 years later) that the nerve sheath had been damaged and osteo-arthritis had set in. She now has occasional crippling (9 on the pain ladder) pains in her neck and a constant level of pain and some immobility.
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My neck is tender now. Do I make an injury claim or not?
C
As you didn't go to hospital, report the accident to the police (if not already) and see your GP urgently.
Streaky
streaky said:
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My neck is tender now. Do I make an injury claim or not?
C
Yes, absolutely! My (then) fiance and I were teh meat in a sandwich 30+ years ago. She suffered some stiffness in her neck but wouldn't see a doctor. It turned out (20 years later) that the nerve sheath had been damaged and osteo-arthritis had set in. She now has occasional crippling (9 on the pain ladder) pains in her neck and a constant level of pain and some immobility.
As you didn't go to hospital, report the accident to the police (if not already) and see your GP urgently.
Streaky
thankyou streaky. I was wondering if I should - I hate the "claim culture" and would like to avoid if possible, but long term it may have done a lot of harm.
I'd estimate she was doing 60 when she clobbered me, at about 40 !!
Not wanting to frighten some of you guys, but it really made me think - and I am going to keep this lesson with me for a long time (driving big cars is better than driving small ones).
I know suvs/4x4's roll over quite easily, but my god! the carnage inflicted all the way back to the windscreen of the Festa was scary. A bit faster and the glass would have gone.
Dunnow if it'll put me off biking - but I will be nervous of people following !! I'd be dead on a bike if this happened.
Scary stuff indeed. Thankfully no one was seriously hurt, except maybe in 20 years time.
I asked the cop not to do the lady for careless driving 'cos I felt that it served no purpose. The shock was easily enough punishment.
Keep it shiney side up people!
C
The symptoms you describe - tenderness appearing after a period but not at the time of the collision - are exactly what you'd expect from a genuine whiplash injury. By the way, what ARE head restraints for? Anyone who says at the scene "Ow! my neck!" should be viewed with suspicion IMHO, unless they're really badly hurt of course.
hertsbiker said:
Not wanting to frighten some of you guys, but it really made me think - and I am going to keep this lesson with me for a long time (driving big cars is better than driving small ones).
I know suvs/4x4's roll over quite easily, but my god! the carnage inflicted all the way back to the windscreen of the Festa was scary. A bit faster and the glass would have gone.
At risk of a flaming...The damage all round to you and her car might have been less had you had a crumple zone too??
Re your neck: See your GP, but unless you're off work an NHS physio appointment will likely be a long (3 month) wait away. By this stage, if you're still getting grief, your neck will be harder/take longer to fix. At a minimum get your insurers to sort out payment (or if necessary ay yourself and claim it back) for some private treatment.
nah, the "crumple" zone on the Shog is about 12 inches of deformable plastic bumper with selected shaped (easily replacable) crash section.
The shaped bits bent in about 8 inches, today I bent 'em back out, and I will be fitting new lights to make it street legal.
Got to do all this, 'cos the body shop is busy for the next few weeks.
End result is looking quite pukka.
Tender neck or not, I would sooner be in the 2000kg vehicle than the 1000kg vehicle!
Understand what you're saying, but this is a modern design 4x4, not a Landy. My Landy would have not had a mark on it, but I may have had a broken neck (no headrests).
BLoody pain - drivable car, but not legal.
The shaped bits bent in about 8 inches, today I bent 'em back out, and I will be fitting new lights to make it street legal.
Got to do all this, 'cos the body shop is busy for the next few weeks.
End result is looking quite pukka.
Tender neck or not, I would sooner be in the 2000kg vehicle than the 1000kg vehicle!
Understand what you're saying, but this is a modern design 4x4, not a Landy. My Landy would have not had a mark on it, but I may have had a broken neck (no headrests).
BLoody pain - drivable car, but not legal.
rude girl said:Sorry, did you mean "mechanics"? (Dives into handy nuclear bunker and pulls 6' thick lid down.)
Aren't Engineers Brilliant?
I am joking of course, but it illustrates what many Brits think of 'Engineers'. One of the few good things to say about Continental Europe is that they value and respect 'Engineers'.
Streaky
motco said:But (AFAIK) the so-called "whiplash" injury can also occur as the head moves forwards again after the initial rear-end impact. And how many head-restraints can actually do their job? The range of vertical adjustment is often too limited (especially for anyone over 5'10") and the range (if any) of horizontal adjustment does not cater for seat adjustment or driving position. My Tiv is great, the Jeep isn't; recently previous cars (including Mercedes, Volvo, Renault) have been generally poor in one or both planes of adjustment - Streaky
The symptoms you describe - tenderness appearing after a period but not at the time of the collision - are exactly what you'd expect from a genuine whiplash injury. By the way, what ARE head restraints for? Anyone who says at the scene "Ow! my neck!" should be viewed with suspicion IMHO, unless they're really badly hurt of course.
streaky said:
The last person to run into back of me totally disintegrated the front of her Honda Civic.
The damage to my Mercedes was a cracked bumper.
The last person to run into me (famous last words?
The Jeep suffered a scratch on the bumper
......
The last person to run into me (furiously touching wood!
) wanted me to sign saying I agreed there was no damage. Of course refused and the garage spotted a tiny crack in the bumper cover where it had bent round the bracket. When I called the guy his missus answered. Having explained who I was and why I was calling, she asked me to describe the car. After that it all went a bit quiet........
Such language from a lady! All because hubby had borrowed and crashed her car without telling her. No conjugals for a month by the sound of it!
he he he!
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