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hoyin

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1,233 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Today I noticed I have some hairline cracks on the body work around one of the connections from the spoiler support and the rear wing.

I opened the rear clam and checked the underside, they don't appear to go all the way through, perhaps it is just the paint layer that has cracked?

Anyone have this? Could it be over tightened? Or perhaps because when I open the rear clam I use the spoiler to lift it it has caused this cracking?


gaz 7404

326 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Using the spoiler to open the clam is a definate NO NO this is most likely why its cracked the gel coat and paint. ouch!

snuffy

13,217 posts

313 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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I open the rear by the wing and mine's fine.

hoyin

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1,233 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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What !!!!! ... this is what the authorised service centre told me to do ... naming no names ...

furious

Grrrr ... so do you open from the sides?

hoyin

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1,233 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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I guess a respray will just fix it ...

Bugger ... If I respray would I have to respray the entire rear clam? or is someone good enough to just touch up a small area?

Any recommendations?

I am not happy ...

The devil

2,152 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Not easy opening it on your own without pulling on the wing

david.mt

1,173 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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I would never use the wing to open - it just seems too flimsy. I use the area behind the rear quarter light to lift and lower and seems to do the trick.

I doubt you will be able to get the area resprayed without doing the entire rear clam and maybe even blended into the rear panels. Legislation has changed and most of our cars will have been sprayed with oil based paints which are no longer acceptable and therefore have to be resprayed with water based products rolleyes.

Maybe see if a paint detailer can fix it first idea

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

215 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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I always use the wing to open. Its the safest way, not only to open, but to close also. What kind of pressure is the wing exerting on the rear clam when at high speed. Surely this will cause the stress cracks over a period of time.....call them "speed related stress cracks", won’t fix it , but might make you feel a bit better about it lol.... fking slow down!!!!

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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The thickness on the clams is VERY variable, hand lay up in SA not being what it is in Sunseekerland. Also the part of the clam that the wing rests on is unsuported so when the wing exerts downforce it flexes the clam. Your clam may be thinner than most.
Paul C

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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hoyin said:
I guess a respray will just fix it ...

Bugger ... If I respray would I have to respray the entire rear clam? or is someone good enough to just touch up a small area?

Any recommendations?

I am not happy ...
Just respraying will not fix it.

Those are stress cracks in the gel coat, and respraying will do nothing but hide them for a few weeks/months.

Here's what i do to cure this sort of problem:

With a 2mm drill bit, drill into the gel coat at the end of each stress crack. This will stop them from cracking further.

You need to use a sharp instrument like a bradawl to "dig out" each stress crack, and then mix some gel coat and paint it into each opened up crack.

Flat off and paint.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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i just checked my rear clam out and i have some thing similar - however it looks like it was there before the paint was added and could be marks indicating where they were supposed to drill the hole. They may have forgot to fill it over.

so my guess is its the filler that has cracked that was used to clean up where they previously had marked the clam

(does that make sense ?)

peterguk M500

2,622 posts

246 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Gadgeroonie said:
i just checked my rear clam out and i have some thing similar - could be marks indicating where they were supposed to drill the hole.
I doubt it - normally a pencil mark is good enough to indicate where to drill a hole.

They will be stress marks from either badly fitted wing supports or repeated opening/closing of the clam using the wing as a handle.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Probably overtightened post in the past. Also the ruber boots go brittle over time.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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the marks i have are very regular - three lines intersecting at 60 degs

jdearden

1,746 posts

206 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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i checked mine today also and i have a few similar cracks but only very small in length. in my eyes does not seem much of a prop;em only if it gets really bad,. i see them as happy cracks just like happy wrinkles.

hoyin

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1,233 posts

266 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I only have it on the left side under one fixing and they are about 1.5 inches long.

Lets hope they don't spread. I'll probably leave it for the time being as the weather is still good and and I don't want it off the road for any amount of time otherwise I won't be able to enjoy driving it!

Plus no one will actually see it or know they are there a part from me ... and well you ...

wobble

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Of course this stress damage could be due to the fact that the left (IIRC?) post on almost all M12s & M400s is skewed. I've always suspected that the template the South Africans used to drill the four holes was out of alignment. Stand directly behind most Nobles and line-up your eye at the left pillar and the clamshell butress wall behind it and you'll see what I mean - wonky! wink

paulcundy

1,897 posts

294 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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AMG Merc said:
Of course this stress damage could be due to the fact that the left (IIRC?) post on almost all M12s & M400s is skewed. I've always suspected that the template the South Africans used to drill the four holes was out of alignment. Stand directly behind most Nobles and line-up your eye at the left pillar and the clamshell butress wall behind it and you'll see what I mean - wonky! wink
they had a template.........

BobE

605 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Both main dealers I visited to look at cars before buying my 3R opened the rear clam by means of the wing and said this was the way to do it.... When my car was picked up recently by the body shop and I opened the clam shell this way to show them where the trickle charger connection was they were horrified.....

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

215 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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BobE said:
Both main dealers I visited to look at cars before buying my 3R opened the rear clam by means of the wing and said this was the way to do it.... When my car was picked up recently by the body shop and I opened the clam shell this way to show them where the trickle charger connection was they were horrified.....
How did they recommend you open?????