Kids in the Quiet Carriage
Kids in the Quiet Carriage
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st_files

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5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I want to find out if its me being an uptight old git or if I am in the right....

Travelling back from Devon yesterday evening on a packed train, looking at a 2.5 hour trip to Paddington. I deliberately booked in advance onto the "quiet carriage", no mobiles, no loud noise etc. All is good until two sets of parents get on with two 2-4 year old (no idea how old they actually were) kids who are instantly making noise - as kids do.

This was instantly irritating to everyone else in the carriage - why on earth get on the "quiet" carriage with 2 kids?? A woman turned round and asked them if they could keep the noise down to be told "they're kids, what do you expect?" (erm....for you to have the courtesy to sit in one of the non quiet carriages maybe?). The father of one of the kids basically told her to get stuffed.

There were other seats on the train they could have sat at. They compounded the situation by then sitting together as a group - which of course meant the 2 kids were playing with one another = more noise. I dont have any problem with kids, I just thought the parents were extremely selfish. Why do some parents seem to think everyone else is as happy as they are to put up with the negative parts of having kids around? Or am I just a grumpy old git?

rich1231

17,340 posts

289 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Watch out Parent Nazi's will be harrassing you from now on.

sday12

5,067 posts

240 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I've been put in the quiet carriage on a reservation without asking, perhaps this happened.

However annoying, kids are kids.

sday12

5,067 posts

240 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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rich1231 said:
Watch out Parent Nazi's will be harrassing you from now on.
That's 'Parent Nazis'.

The Grammar Nazis.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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sday12 said:
I've been put in the quiet carriage on a reservation without asking, perhaps this happened.

However annoying, kids are kids.
Absolutely, like I say, I have no problem with kids per se. My problem was with the arrogance of the parents last night. They made absolutely no attempt to encourage their kids to be quiet - even just for appearances sake.

bertie

8,569 posts

313 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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st_files said:
sday12 said:
I've been put in the quiet carriage on a reservation without asking, perhaps this happened.

However annoying, kids are kids.
Absolutely, like I say, I have no problem with kids per se. My problem was with the arrogance of the parents last night. They made absolutely no attempt to encourage their kids to be quiet - even just for appearances sake.
Sadly, there are a lot of selfish, aggressive, arrogant gits about full stop, some of them happen to have kids.

B Oeuf

39,731 posts

313 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Kids can do no wrong these days and to suggest otherwise to their parents an invitation to abuse I'm afraid

bertie

8,569 posts

313 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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B Oeuf said:
Kids can do no wrong these days and to suggest otherwise to their parents an invitation to abuse I'm afraid
Depends on the parents, some are decent and respect others.

Like I said, problem is the "grown ups" lots of gits with no respect about.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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bertie said:
st_files said:
sday12 said:
I've been put in the quiet carriage on a reservation without asking, perhaps this happened.

However annoying, kids are kids.
Absolutely, like I say, I have no problem with kids per se. My problem was with the arrogance of the parents last night. They made absolutely no attempt to encourage their kids to be quiet - even just for appearances sake.
Sadly, there are a lot of selfish, aggressive, arrogant gits about full stop, some of them happen to have kids.
Fair point.

silversun

4,373 posts

255 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I was on a quiet carriage a while back and a woman got on with a baby which immediately started crying loudly. She did attempt to quieten it down, but it didn't work. Someone must have complained because after a few minutes the train manager came and asked her to move to another carriage.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Noise cancelling headphones - fantastic invention and work a treat.....

selwonk

2,143 posts

254 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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If my seven year old daughter was in that carriage, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. This "Kids will be kids" bks gets on my bloody nerves. She has been brought up to be quiet and respectful around other people. Shame the same can't be said for vast numbers of other children.

Arese

21,350 posts

216 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I'm with you, the selfish parents shouldn't have sat in that carriage.

But, for 50% of PH'ers, just copy and paste this into your reply:

"You're obviously not a parent yourself"

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st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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selwonk said:
If my seven year old daughter was in that carriage, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. This "Kids will be kids" bks gets on my bloody nerves. She has been brought up to be quiet and respectful around other people. Shame the same can't be said for vast numbers of other children.
Well thats what I found most irritating/bemusing. There was no attempt to keep their kids quiet when they got on and their attitude after being asked to keep the noise down was one of "kids will be kids, we cant tell them to be quiet" The father said that the quiet carriage was only to do with mobile phones, which was a mornic thing to say really. Even after they'd been asked they made no attempt to control their kids and seemed to think eveyone else found their kids squealing as endearing as they did.

The fact that they appeared extremely "right on" parents (in their 40's dressed like 21 year olds) kids named Dimitri & Tai, only made them more irritating for me, but I accept thats my prejudice at play there....

bertie

8,569 posts

313 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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st_files said:
selwonk said:
If my seven year old daughter was in that carriage, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. This "Kids will be kids" bks gets on my bloody nerves. She has been brought up to be quiet and respectful around other people. Shame the same can't be said for vast numbers of other children.
Well thats what I found most irritating/bemusing. There was no attempt to keep their kids quiet when they got on and their attitude after being asked to keep the noise down was one of "kids will be kids, we cant tell them to be quiet" The father said that the quiet carriage was only to do with mobile phones, which was a mornic thing to say really. Even after they'd been asked they made no attempt to control their kids and seemed to think eveyone else found their kids squealing as endearing as they did.

The fact that they appeared extremely "right on" parents (in their 40's dressed like 21 year olds) kids named Dimitri & Tai, only made them more irritating for me, but I accept thats my prejudice at play there....
Clearly they are gits, were gits before having kids no doubt, and will be after they've grown up no doubt.

pits

6,704 posts

219 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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selwonk said:
If my seven year old daughter was in that carriage, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. This "Kids will be kids" bks gets on my bloody nerves. She has been brought up to be quiet and respectful around other people. Shame the same can't be said for vast numbers of other children.
Really? I saw her the other day kick an old man to the floor and call him a cheap old

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I absolutely hate the attitudes of parents on trains. I have the joy of Bedford to London each day and back. Fortunately the tickets are too expencive for most parents so it's rare to get them on the train too or from work.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Not a thread about laying down the "bog roll baffle" while "going to Pauls" then?

squirrel2007

3,005 posts

214 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I was on a train from Glasgow to Birmingham when a dad and his young daughter got on. Dad immediately gets out a portable DVD player and puts on the Spongebob movie. It was playing out through the speakers for an hour and a half and people were looking quite pissed off. When the film ended there was a moment of dread when he took another DVD out of the case, only this time he took out a pair of headphones too and put them on his daughter! furious

The whole carriage had put up with this kids film blaring at them just because the dad wanted to watch it too! Luckily I had my Ipod which largely (but not entirely) drowned out the noise but I couldn't get over how selfish some people are. When I listen to my music I am consious about whether others can hear it too and make sure I dont play it too loudly. Unfortunately, this isn't the only time this sort of thing has happened and it seems that parents would rather ruin the lives of everyone else just so that their little darlings are happy.

I'm flying to Spain on Wed but not without my noise cancelling headphones and earplugs!!!

schmalex

13,616 posts

235 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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st_files said:
selwonk said:
If my seven year old daughter was in that carriage, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of her. This "Kids will be kids" bks gets on my bloody nerves. She has been brought up to be quiet and respectful around other people. Shame the same can't be said for vast numbers of other children.
Well thats what I found most irritating/bemusing. There was no attempt to keep their kids quiet when they got on and their attitude after being asked to keep the noise down was one of "kids will be kids, we cant tell them to be quiet" The father said that the quiet carriage was only to do with mobile phones, which was a mornic thing to say really. Even after they'd been asked they made no attempt to control their kids and seemed to think eveyone else found their kids squealing as endearing as they did.

The fact that they appeared extremely "right on" parents (in their 40's dressed like 21 year olds) kids named Dimitri & Tai, only made them more irritating for me, but I accept thats my prejudice at play there....
That's your problem right there. Londoners.

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