Proof positive of revenue scameras

[streaky]

There are reports that the following (stretches of) new roads opened with speed cameras already installed:
A12 near London
A370 Weston-super-Mare
A6 near Bedford
Batheaston bypass near Bath

As these are new roads with NO history of crashes and therefore cannot be 'Blackspots', the installation of 'speed cameras' cannot be justified under government guidelines and therefore these MUST be revenue scameras.

Streaky

QED

[forever_driving]

Remember, they're only 'guidelines', meaning that the government can do pretty much whatever it wants

[Nickccc]

Streaky I live in bedfordshire and unfortunatly the A6 has got a history of fatal accidents.
This is I think due to the road layout more than anything and bad signage.
Though I agree that 99% of cameras are revenue earners.

[Flat in Fifth]

There is another issue besides the cameras on new roads which our county SCP refuse to answer.

Dangerous junction identified. (Actually it was very dicey & I used to modify my regular route to work to avoid)

Roads modified with traffic lights and other road engineering mods. (much needed as above.)

At same time limit is lowered. (No comment)

Immediately after completion of works SCP camera vans start "hanging around." (Again no comment)

Crash statistics show a marked drop (Not unexpected given all the above)

What factor is claimed as giving the improved situation.

Yep you got it, cameras.

So why didn't they wait to see the effect of the road engineering before deploying the vans?

I would say its because they know the truth. In other words the pre-mod statistics may support a camera site, but as sure as hell the post-mod ones won't.

It's a slightly different slant on the question Streaky poses at the top, but exactly the same issues I would say.

Streaky I think we could add the A17 Leadenham bypass in Lincolnshire to your list.

FiF

[streaky]

forever_driving said:

Remember, they're only 'guidelines', meaning that the government can do pretty much whatever it wants

But (non-)compliance affects who gets the revenues - S

[bluepolarbear]

streaky said:

forever_driving said: Remember, they're only 'guidelines', meaning that the government can do pretty much whatever it wants But (non-)compliance affects who gets the revenues - S

The guidelines allow them to put them at non-accident blackspots as well. Only 85% have to be at blackspots (and a very loose defination of a blackspot at that)

[nonegreen]

Money is not the issue. It is high time we started talking in terms of population reducing cameras. The anti car charities and safety partnerships should be renamed pro death organisations. This is the kind off imotive argument that will get rid of them. Forget money, after all if it were only money we mostly would not care.

[mybrainhurts]

PROOF POSITIVE OF REVENUE SCAMERAS

Don't need more proof.

Govt commissioned Transport Research Laboratory to investigate automatic signs that flash up your speed as you approach.

TRL found them more effective than speed cameras.

Logical safety remedy.....scrap cameras, install flashups.

Logical money remedy.......install new cameras.

No contest, eh?

[dmsims]

Here is the one on the Batheaston bypass - email sent asking why it's there. ANY BiB know why ?

[nighthawkEP3]

dmsims said:

email sent asking why it's there. ANY BiB know why ?

That looks like an obvious one m8.

It's there because the slight incline makes you squeeze the throttle a little harder to maintain your legal speed. Then as it levels out where the distance marks are your G/Teed to be a few mph over the limit. BINGO

ker-ching

[Hedders]

nighthawkEP3 said:

dmsims said: email sent asking why it's there. ANY BiB know why ? That looks like an obvious one m8. It's there because the slight incline makes you squeeze the throttle a little harder to maintain your legal speed. Then as it levels out where the distance marks are your G/Teed to be a few mph over the limit. BINGO ker-ching

Also its because the bridge obscures the camera, and the lines on the road will be invisible until you are ontop of them cos they are just over the crest...purely designed to catch out of towners, not speeders.

[knowley]

Building roads with cameras pre-installed weakens the the Governments agruments for speed cameras, unless the road builders fatal RTAs with their tarmac rollers?

>> Edited by knowley on Monday 12th January 18:37