Whats engine is best for high motorway mileage
Whats engine is best for high motorway mileage
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deanobeano

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460 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Thanks to my son wanting to have a motor of his own, I need to reduce my 2 cars down to 1.

The RS6 Plus has now sold and the 08 Prius I currently use for my 30k work miles per annum is now looking a tad unappealing...

I have narrowed my choices down to

123d MSport
130i Msport
330i ED coupe or saloon
335d coupe or saloon

The first question is - what would you say is the best engine to do 100k+ miles in - N/A ie petrol of a diesel.

I'm thinking of longevity of the turbo's etc.

Oh, if you can think of any other Mmotors that can do 35+MPG on runs (lots of motorway) then please chip in.

B19GRR

1,980 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Whilst it's an older generation I do 30k/yr in my 528iA, averaging low thirties, high was 34 over summer which has recently been dropping. It actually does high 30s, low 40s when on the m/way cruising along just traffic jams and town driving that bugger it up. I imagine the newer, smaller and lighter 130/330 should be able to easily match that. However I'm sorting costs out by LPG'ing it, going in this Monday for the operation, at which point I will start to care slightly less about the painful petrol station visits - every 3 days!

Cheers,
Rob

PhilLL

1,123 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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It's going to sound like a well-worn PH cliche but 335d is your motor; 35mpg minimum in mixed driving, better still on long motorway journeys. Effortless torque and the only one that won't feel that slow after the RS6.

ipwn

2,920 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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PhilLL said:
It's going to sound like a well-worn PH cliche but 335d is your motor; 35mpg minimum in mixed driving, better still on long motorway journeys. Effortless torque and the only one that won't feel that slow after the RS6.
+1

330i is still a good engine and will give you high 30's mpg, however whats the point if all you're doing is sitting on the Mway...


deanobeano

Original Poster:

460 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd October 2009
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Ref the 335D - I know that this will be the best car. However, would I expect to see problems with the twin turbos over 100k miles?

MPG aside, I was thinking that a N/A petrol should last longer than a more complex oil burner with one or two blowers.

Oh, and the six cyinder is going to sound better than a 4 or 6 pot diesel.
Although non will sound as good as a V8!

Are there any high mileage, e90 diesels out there?

christer

2,804 posts

281 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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deanobeano said:
Ref the 335D - I know that this will be the best car. However, would I expect to see problems with the twin turbos over 100k miles?

MPG aside, I was thinking that a N/A petrol should last longer than a more complex oil burner with one or two blowers.

Oh, and the six cyinder is going to sound better than a 4 or 6 pot diesel.
Although non will sound as good as a V8!

Are there any high mileage, e90 diesels out there?
I am not sure how much turbos cost to replace, but lets assume its £1200. Would you save that in 100k miles over a petrol?

Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Saturday 3rd October 2009
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christer said:
deanobeano said:
Ref the 335D - I know that this will be the best car. However, would I expect to see problems with the twin turbos over 100k miles?

MPG aside, I was thinking that a N/A petrol should last longer than a more complex oil burner with one or two blowers.

Oh, and the six cyinder is going to sound better than a 4 or 6 pot diesel.
Although non will sound as good as a V8!

Are there any high mileage, e90 diesels out there?
I am not sure how much turbos cost to replace, but lets assume its £1200. Would you save that in 100k miles over a petrol?
Assuming the petrol is 100% reliable though...

christer

2,804 posts

281 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Mattt said:
Assuming the petrol is 100% reliable though...
No, just assuming that the petrol doesn't have any turbos and that all other maintenance costs are similar - unless you mean that the diesel is guranteed to be 100% reliable so the only difference is the turbo? Total speculation in any case of coursesmile

juliann

400 posts

266 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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deanobeano said:
Ref the 335D - I know that this will be the best car. However, would I expect to see problems with the twin turbos over 100k miles?
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I have 171,000 on my MY05 535d. No turbo / engine probs to date from new



Edited by juliann on Monday 5th October 13:06

deanobeano

Original Poster:

460 posts

213 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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That's good news Julian... does it use much oil?
Assuming an auto box, have you had the transmission fluid changed?

Pork_n_Beem

1,164 posts

255 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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My 530D has just shot its turbo at 214K miles, if i had it serviced before it blew it would only have cost me £200 rather than £500.

I get 40+mpg on runs and 37 around town.

The torque is awesome for towing and even after 215K miles it still runs sweet and uses very little oil.

my parents run a 330i and their average is around 28mpg, both cars are manual.

Xerces

88 posts

208 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Depends how much you value speed/mpg/price/depreciation/sound etc.

I would go for the 525d - its still a 3.0 but less stressed so in theory should last longer.

juliann

400 posts

266 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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deanobeano said:
That's good news Julian... does it use much oil?
Assuming an auto box, have you had the transmission fluid changed?
No, doesn't use oil.

The auto box is now in need of a £1k refresh by a ZF specialist, but that's more to do with towing the M5 in a less than sympathetic manner rather than anything else.

martin vr6

3,883 posts

231 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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335d no questions asked, as stated before its the only car that will still feel quick after the RS6 and will handle miles no problem at all

Curious as to why you are stuck on saloon/coupe though, tourings are a far prettier and more practical option IMO

Petrol cars for doing miles like you are make absolutely no sense at all IMO

cat220

2,762 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
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A 730d might also be worth considering! Built like a tank which is an important safety aspect when your doing that kind of mileage.

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
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juliann said:
The auto box is now in need of a £1k refresh by a ZF specialist, but that's more to do with towing the M5 in a less than sympathetic manner rather than anything else.
I'm planning on doing a bit of towing next year, it'll be a 500kg trailer rather than a car but with 120k on the clock I'm a bit concerned about keeping the car for it. Any more info on the refresh and what the symptoms are?

Dinoboy

2,600 posts

247 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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I would'nt even think about a 1 or 3 series doing those sort of miles.Smallest I would have would be a five.Part/exd my 06 E60 5 series for a new 3 in July and enjoy driving it but its nowhere near as relaxing to drive on the motorway.

juliann

400 posts

266 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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john_p said:
juliann said:
The auto box is now in need of a £1k refresh by a ZF specialist, but that's more to do with towing the M5 in a less than sympathetic manner rather than anything else.
I'm planning on doing a bit of towing next year, it'll be a 500kg trailer rather than a car but with 120k on the clock I'm a bit concerned about keeping the car for it. Any more info on the refresh and what the symptoms are?
John, I've been towing a car at 1380kgs plus the trailer weight of 400kgs. With just a 500kg trailer you won't even know it's behind you. The symptoms are a feeling akin to clutch judder when accelerating gently up an incline from low speed and the car surges a bit when at 50-70 mph on a light throttle. I've been told (and I'm no mechanic) that there are plates in the ZF box that can start to separate. The symptoms started at 110,000 and are a bit worse at 171,000 but by no means disasterous. I do a fair bit of this 'heavy' towing and as I said before, it's not done in a very sympathetic manner - not dangerous but not clever.

If you want to experience what it's like, I do the length of the M4 2 x week on a Tue & Thu so could stop somewhere and meet if you want a brief go.





Edited by juliann on Wednesday 7th October 11:41

turboman786

1,131 posts

217 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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730d sport......hugely impressive car, particlularly in post 2005 spec facelift guise....can be pickeed up quite cheap, very nice to drive, and suprisingly sporty too!

4nonymous

2,920 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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turboman786 said:
730d sport......hugely impressive car, particlularly in post 2005 spec facelift guise....can be pickeed up quite cheap, very nice to drive, and suprisingly sporty too!
Realistically, what is the handling like compared to something like a 5 sport or 3 sport ?