Would you ever vote tory again....
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If they dob't call a eu referendum, either way ratified or Not...
I want a referendum....
I might EVEN vote yes!!!
But only if I'm convinced....
the thought of eu an president blair, with his previous election manifesto(con trick), we will have a referendum, only to be signed away in a back room by Brown. is really making me irrationally angry.
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I want a referendum....
I might EVEN vote yes!!!
But only if I'm convinced....
the thought of eu an president blair, with his previous election manifesto(con trick), we will have a referendum, only to be signed away in a back room by Brown. is really making me irrationally angry.
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Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Small government, low tax, libertarian parties don't seem to exist, so sod democracy I'm holding out for an Anarcho-capitalism state.
We're about to get small government whoever is in charge; we're so skint right now, 100k+ civil serpents are going to be getting their P45s in the next 18 months, there will be a lot of bloodletting. No low tax though, as we have a large overdraft. Try not to worry, get some popcorn in, sit back and enjoy the trainwreck that UKplc is about to become.Small government, low tax, libertarian parties don't seem to exist, so sod democracy I'm holding out for an Anarcho-capitalism state.
If we get a referendum (pre or post ratification of the [-]EU Constitution[-] Treaty of Lisbon) then yes.
If not, then I don't see why they are different to the other 2 parties, and my vote will go to smaller parties/independents.
I truly believe we could soon see a sea-change in British politics. Whether our parliament is worth voting for if all the rules are passed down from Brussels is another question.
If not, then I don't see why they are different to the other 2 parties, and my vote will go to smaller parties/independents.
I truly believe we could soon see a sea-change in British politics. Whether our parliament is worth voting for if all the rules are passed down from Brussels is another question.
Jalopnik said:
Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Then you have forfeited the right to complain about anything.So by your logic you can complain about red, blue or yellow, me I'll complain about the weaknesses of representative democracy.
Fittster said:
Jalopnik said:
Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Then you have forfeited the right to complain about anything.So by your logic you can complain about red, blue or yellow, me I'll complain about the weaknesses of representative democracy.
supersingle said:
Fittster said:
Jalopnik said:
Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Then you have forfeited the right to complain about anything.So by your logic you can complain about red, blue or yellow, me I'll complain about the weaknesses of representative democracy.
Chris_w666 said:
supersingle said:
Fittster said:
Jalopnik said:
Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Then you have forfeited the right to complain about anything.So by your logic you can complain about red, blue or yellow, me I'll complain about the weaknesses of representative democracy.
Fittster said:
Chris_w666 said:
supersingle said:
Fittster said:
Jalopnik said:
Fittster said:
No (but then I can't see myself voting again).
Then you have forfeited the right to complain about anything.Mass voting shows that politicians can be removed from power and that is what they fear most.
Rubbish, I have rejected the system. By participating (even by the use of a spoilt paper) you are accepting the system, simply chaning the monkeys in charge. The lower the turnout the weaker the mandiate behind the system.
So by your logic you can complain about red, blue or yellow, me I'll complain about the weaknesses of representative democracy.
Wadeski said:
The one thing that really worries me about the Tories getting in is the Euro-loonies taking over. There are plenty of thing wrong with the European union - but plenty more thats very good about it, and taking our toys home to play with them alone is daft.
Why? The Swiss and Norwegians dont think so.Jasandjules said:
Or perhaps UKIP if they could actually make a difference.
UKIP could make a difference if enough people voted for them and thats the problem. Much as I support UKIPs basic idea - get us out of the EU - I'm not sure they are 'main stream' enough to get through to joe public.
They just seem to be aiming at the people that understand the real problem with being in the EU.
But I must get round to emailing them and asking thier stance on the motorist/cars.
s2art said:
Wadeski said:
The one thing that really worries me about the Tories getting in is the Euro-loonies taking over. There are plenty of thing wrong with the European union - but plenty more thats very good about it, and taking our toys home to play with them alone is daft.
Why? The Swiss and Norwegians dont think so.
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