Labours Legacy
Discussion
dizzythinks said:
William Hague certainly trumped Gordon Brown's conference speech list of Labour "achievements" last week with the following list of Labour's legacy.
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
pwned.
- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied
pwned.
This is what I didn't want to see happening though.
It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.
Everyone knows and can see Labour's legacy, but what are the Tories going to do differently. That's what they need to do with this conference.
It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.
Everyone knows and can see Labour's legacy, but what are the Tories going to do differently. That's what they need to do with this conference.
Spiritual_Beggar said:
This is what I didn't want to see happening though.
It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.
That's David Cameron's job, Hague is there to put the boot in and hopefully get through the blinkered Labour supporter that their party is a complete lying shambles.It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.
Jasandjules said:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see - Robbing Private Pensions.
I still can't understand how Winky got this past so many people.Private pension schemes derived income, to pay pensions, from members' contributions and investment income.
Tax deducted from investment income used to be reclaimed by the pension schemes and re-invested. This was a sizeable chunk of their funding.
Then, along came Winky to stop all this, against advice from all advisors.
The collapse of private pensions was inevitable.
Jasandjules said:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see - Robbing Private Pensions.
Nor did I see, council tax increasing hugely (25% of which goes to pay for Civil Service Pensions).
Without wanting to be seen as splitting hairs with you, but Civil Service Pensions are completely unrelated to Council Tax, I think you mean Public Sector Pensions, meaning Local Authorities and Police and Fire Brigade, which are in a different pension fund, to the Civil Service (largely ministeries of the Crown), and the NHS have a different pension scheme. (And as a Civil Servant) I wish I had the kind of pension scheme the Police have...Nor did I see, council tax increasing hugely (25% of which goes to pay for Civil Service Pensions).
But I agree on Private Pension, I don't understand how he got away with robbing them blind.
ETA I notice Darling has announced a Civil Service freeze for top civil servants, fine, but lowly civil servants will be limited to between 0-1%, like thats new, the last payment settlement in my branch of the civil service resulted in a 3 year pay deal, that nets me precisely 1% increase in total (not each year) over those 3 years. Given that I'm in year 2 or 3, there seems no point in trying to remember, assuming is fairly typical across the large depts in the civil service and this has already been costed in to public finances, then this announce, is not going to save any money, if anything this is classic labour announce something that sounds impressive but in the detail is not quite as impressive...
Oh and I don't expect to see me a "gold plated" civil service pension, assuming I even get to pensionable age...
Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 5th October 21:46
Puggit said:
pacman1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
pacman1 said:
'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?
No, the EU put paid to that...You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?

So if we reinstate the death penalty - do we get ejected?


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