Labours Legacy
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jesusbuiltmycar

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4,883 posts

270 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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dizzythinks said:
William Hague certainly trumped Gordon Brown's conference speech list of Labour "achievements" last week with the following list of Labour's legacy.

- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up by 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of –work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty
- Ending up with child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- And the ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned when it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10,Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied

pwned.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

271 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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And still Winky wallows in the glory of his achievements...

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

210 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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This is what I didn't want to see happening though.

It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.


Everyone knows and can see Labour's legacy, but what are the Tories going to do differently. That's what they need to do with this conference.

motco

16,820 posts

262 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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...and about a million more people employed in the public sector than in 1997

NismoGT

1,634 posts

206 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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BUMP......

Please don't let this thread fall off the cliff to quickly.

We need the minority of Labour supporting , Social wes on this site to see the victorious achivements of Bliar , Winky & Co

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

210 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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FourWheelDrift

91,067 posts

300 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
This is what I didn't want to see happening though.

It's good to lay out Labour's faults, but I was hoping this Conference would be used to detail what the Tories stand for.
That's David Cameron's job, Hague is there to put the boot in and hopefully get through the blinkered Labour supporter that their party is a complete lying shambles.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

233 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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A jaffa cake says darlings pay freezes for "senior" managers will be offset by increased pensions or other benefits

Jasandjules

71,225 posts

245 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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I may have missed it, but I didn't see - Robbing Private Pensions.

Nor did I see, council tax increasing hugely (25% of which goes to pay for Civil Service Pensions).

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

271 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Jasandjules said:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see - Robbing Private Pensions.
I still can't understand how Winky got this past so many people.

Private pension schemes derived income, to pay pensions, from members' contributions and investment income.

Tax deducted from investment income used to be reclaimed by the pension schemes and re-invested. This was a sizeable chunk of their funding.

Then, along came Winky to stop all this, against advice from all advisors.

The collapse of private pensions was inevitable.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

271 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Nor did I see, council tax increasing hugely (25% of which goes to pay for Civil Service Pensions).
You must be living in a Conservative constituency...

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

209 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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"Mr Brown when you move out of number 10 can you please give the keys and one completely fked country to Mr Cameron"

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

216 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Jasandjules said:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see - Robbing Private Pensions.

Nor did I see, council tax increasing hugely (25% of which goes to pay for Civil Service Pensions).
Without wanting to be seen as splitting hairs with you, but Civil Service Pensions are completely unrelated to Council Tax, I think you mean Public Sector Pensions, meaning Local Authorities and Police and Fire Brigade, which are in a different pension fund, to the Civil Service (largely ministeries of the Crown), and the NHS have a different pension scheme. (And as a Civil Servant) I wish I had the kind of pension scheme the Police have...

But I agree on Private Pension, I don't understand how he got away with robbing them blind.

ETA I notice Darling has announced a Civil Service freeze for top civil servants, fine, but lowly civil servants will be limited to between 0-1%, like thats new, the last payment settlement in my branch of the civil service resulted in a 3 year pay deal, that nets me precisely 1% increase in total (not each year) over those 3 years. Given that I'm in year 2 or 3, there seems no point in trying to remember, assuming is fairly typical across the large depts in the civil service and this has already been costed in to public finances, then this announce, is not going to save any money, if anything this is classic labour announce something that sounds impressive but in the detail is not quite as impressive...

Oh and I don't expect to see me a "gold plated" civil service pension, assuming I even get to pensionable age...

Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 5th October 21:46

Jasandjules

71,225 posts

245 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
I still can't understand how Winky got this past so many people.
Oh, it didn't get past me. But then, my retirement age went up by five years (at least) thanks to this thieving, lying, cheating scumbag stealing from my pensions.

pacman1

7,323 posts

209 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

271 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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pacman1 said:
'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?
No, the EU put paid to that...

pacman1

7,323 posts

209 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
pacman1 said:
'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?
No, the EU put paid to that...
banghead

Puggit

49,171 posts

264 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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pacman1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
pacman1 said:
'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?
No, the EU put paid to that...
banghead
It's one of the fundamental rules of entry.

So if we reinstate the death penalty - do we get ejected? scratchchin

pacman1

7,323 posts

209 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Puggit said:
pacman1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
pacman1 said:
'Tis treasonous behaviour for sure.
You can still be hanged for treason, can't you?
No, the EU put paid to that...
banghead
It's one of the fundamental rules of entry.

So if we reinstate the death penalty - do we get ejected? scratchchin
Is there an online petition yet? smile

Exoticaholic

1,070 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th October 2009
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Where's our friend Racingdude????

Come out, we want to hear your beating your chest about how much Labour did for the UK - not.