Really scary video !
Really scary video !
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philthy

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4,697 posts

269 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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One of the few things that I'm frightened will happen to me:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/62615...

davido140

9,616 posts

255 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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started to watch it then changed my mind...

Season starts in a couple of months and I dont want memories of this spoiling my fun! smile

Arese

21,350 posts

216 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Crikey. I would not like that!

4hero

4,505 posts

240 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Man, I'm short of breath just watching it (being claustrophobic doesn't help either). Crazy stuff though, you skiers/boarers are mental!

J-c

419 posts

204 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Ah but did he have one of them locater type things on ??

North West Tom

11,713 posts

206 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Someone tell me what what it is before temptation gets the better of me? hehe

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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1:17 in, when you see those cracks you're fked

south facing slope, gotten warm then cold, formed ice and snowed again, then sunny again - perfect avalche weather


Arese

21,350 posts

216 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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North West Tom said:
Someone tell me what what it is before temptation gets the better of me? hehe
Skiing
Ace
Avalance
Less Ace
Rescue
Ace

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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4hero said:
Crazy stuff though, you skiers/boarers are mental!
it's great fun though!!

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

223 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Bloody hell!!!

That was horrible to watch! Imagine what he must have felt like. Lucky boy. Great rescue!!!



On a lighter note; what were they fking about try to put the shovel together for! Stop faffing about, and get stuck in with yer hands!! That's what we did as kids!

shakotan

10,862 posts

225 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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It's already in the 'Found anything good on YouTube" thread.
Yes, I'm aware it's not on YouTube!

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

254 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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It says he had avalanche breathing aparatus kit on so one would assume that he had a locator with him. There's no way that they'd have found him within 5 minutes without one. It's a fundamental bit of kit when heading off the beaten track.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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dvs_dave said:
It says he had avalanche breathing aparatus kit on so one would assume that he had a locator with him. There's no way that they'd have found him within 5 minutes without one. It's a fundamental bit of kit when heading off the beaten track.
They found him quickly because his glove came off and was on top of the snow where he was buried.

BermyAndy

2,050 posts

247 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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trooperiziz said:
dvs_dave said:
It says he had avalanche breathing aparatus kit on so one would assume that he had a locator with him. There's no way that they'd have found him within 5 minutes without one. It's a fundamental bit of kit when heading off the beaten track.
They found him quickly because his glove came off and was on top of the snow where he was buried.
And he wasnt using the avalung at the start of his descent, so when the slide took him he only got it in the side of his mouth - so snow still got into his mouth/throat which explains the pretty harsh noises when he is buried - trying to breath when your throat has snow lodged in it..

Master Mischief

630 posts

239 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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trooperiziz said:
dvs_dave said:
It says he had avalanche breathing aparatus kit on so one would assume that he had a locator with him. There's no way that they'd have found him within 5 minutes without one. It's a fundamental bit of kit when heading off the beaten track.
They found him quickly because his glove came off and was on top of the snow where he was buried.
As trooperiziz says if he had an avalung he would certainly have had a locator and his team mates were probably carrying probes and, as seen on the video, shovels. All of these bits would have been essential in saving his life.

The absolute life saving action is to spot and note the last sighting, get there accurately and start a search, there was probably lots of kit on the surface as it is not uncommon to have your kit and clothes torn off. The transceiver is worn as close to the skin as possible for this reason. If there is kit at the point of last sight then this is a good place to start but if you searched at every bit of kit then the victim would die. It is not easy to find people quickly using even the full kit.

4 minutes 30 is an incredible time to allow the avalanche to stop, communicate the last known point, ski there safely, get your transceivers out and turn them all to receive, conduct a search (even if you start right above the victim), get your probe and shovel out, dig down safely and clear breathing room.

I have never been unlucky enough to use any of that kit in anger but I have trained with it in very tough conditions and it is far, far from easy. The quality of their leader saved him simple as that.

Try reading this in 270 seconds, let alone DOING it!

The statistics are bad too. For example the survival probability then plummets from 92% at 15 min to only 30% at 35 min. More here.

FM

5,816 posts

249 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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good link.
Remarkable vid.