Carrera 2 vs Carrera 4 (996)
Carrera 2 vs Carrera 4 (996)
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Ecosseven

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2,379 posts

247 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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I'm considering a 996 cabriolet as my next daily driver. Apart from the obvious traction advantages in slippery conditions offered by the 4wd system, what are the advantages and disadvantages of the two systems. I've listed my own thoughts below.

4WD = more weight, more parts to maintain and/or need replacing, smaller front boot. Better traction in the rain and snow. Not sure about handling?

2WD = less weight, purer driving experience?, bigger front boot, perhaps a handful in the snow?

The car will be used all year round in all conditions.

All the best.


585bhp

51 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Hi There... if you have never had one before and you value cash get the 4, And if you're wanting to drive it in the snow.... then get a 4 coupe! You dont lose too much on boot space, In a 996 it just feels altogether more solid and dependable... and predictable..

rlw

3,589 posts

267 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Except in an emergency, or if you have no choice, don't drive in the snow. The tyres will be useless, 2wd or 4wd, and will offer very little grip to start and even less if you want to stop. I couldn't even get my C4S off my drive with two inches of soft snow on it and when it all froze I didn't even bother.

I can confirm that 80mph four wheel drifts in deep slush are very sobering too, especially when unplanned.

Callughan

6,313 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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My C4S was great in the snowsmile

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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M@verick

976 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Id suggest searching, as this subject has been done a few times.

Ultimately it will come down to personal taste and what you want from the driving experience, so i would arrange to test drive a decent 2 and a decent 4 back to back. Then decide what you like more. For me i decided that the 4's just seemed to put down power far more cleanly than the 2's i tried, and felt more solid and planted. I also like the fact that because of the weight of the extra four wheel drive gear over the front the "nose-bob" is less pronounced in the 2.

Others will tell you that RWD only is the purists way, the nose bob is a porsche characteristic, and that the 2 feels more lean and lithe than the bloated 4.

The truth of the matter is that both views are correct. Its an individual choice, both are great cars and youll enjoy either - get out there and drive some !.

Have fun smile

R.

Edited by M@verick on Wednesday 7th October 15:45

beeej

1,400 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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The only time I lost the back end of my C2 was on a roundabout with a camber, on a hill, in snow back in February smile

Female passenger thinks I did it deliberately. Got to keep them on their toes.........

HRG.

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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C4 cab understeers like a bh.

garyjones1962

402 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Callughan said:
My C4S was great in the snowsmile
+1 biggrin

585bhp

51 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Ecosseven said:
I'm considering a 996 cabriolet as my next daily driver. Apart from the obvious traction advantages in slippery conditions offered by the 4wd system, what are the advantages and disadvantages of the two systems. I've listed my own thoughts below.

4WD = more weight, more parts to maintain and/or need replacing, smaller front boot. Better traction in the rain and snow. Not sure about handling?

2WD = less weight, purer driving experience?, bigger front boot, perhaps a handful in the snow?

The car will be used all year round in all conditions.

All the best.
Dood... you live in Abu Dhabi....

BertBert

21,288 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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You have to try them and see. I preferred 2wd. Not sure that it was "pure". No idea what that means. I felt more involved and interested in a 2wd.

Bert

Mousem40

1,674 posts

247 months

Wednesday 7th October 2009
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Carrera 4 has 4 wheel drive (most of the time only 5% is transferred to the front wheels but can be up to 40%)In order to make room for the 4 wheel-drive hardware, The C4 had to be re-engineered from the windscreen forward. Front suspension was tilted to the rear to make room for the driveshafts, although under the front boot was reduced from 130 litres to 100 litres.

The C4 weighs 55kg more than the Carrera, but its superior traction off the line means that the C4 is just as quick in a straight line. Weight balance is almost identical to the Carrera, 40/60 front/rear for the C4 compared to 38/62 for the Carrera.

The C4 came as standard with Porsche Stability management (PSM). This traction control system groups together a series of safety devices (including traction control, anti-slip control and Automatic Brake Differential– ABD) that had in the past worked independently of each other. Traction control now communicates with ABS and a brake differential control to create a system that can brake each wheel individually.

Visually the differences between the Carrera and C4 are limited to ‘Carrera 4’ badging, titanium
coloured callipers on the C4 (the Carrera has black items) and black wheel centres on new-design 17-
inch alloys.

In 2000 Porsche also upgraded the Carrera with the C4’s drive-by-wire electronic throttle mechanism
(E-Gas) and improved engine management (Motronic 7.2). This makes retrofitting of cruise control a lot easier.

If you don't want/need the benefits of 4 wheel drive (often associated with slightly heavier steering -less feel,more understeer worse fuel economy, and greater tyre wear) in MY2000 PSM became an option on the Carrera, so look out for that if you think you'd like it.

In terms of resale I don't think there is any difference. Purists prefer the regular Carrera for it's rear wheel drive feel, perhaps 'newbies' prefer the added safety and greater all weather useability of the Carrera 4.

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Mousem40 said:
Carrera 4 has 4 wheel drive (most of the time only 5% is transferred to the front wheels but can be up to 40%)In order to make room for the 4 wheel-drive hardware, The C4 had to be re-engineered from the windscreen forward. Front suspension was tilted to the rear to make room for the driveshafts, although under the front boot was reduced from 130 litres to 100 litres.

The C4 weighs 55kg more than the Carrera, but its superior traction off the line means that the C4 is just as quick in a straight line. Weight balance is almost identical to the Carrera, 40/60 front/rear for the C4 compared to 38/62 for the Carrera.

The C4 came as standard with Porsche Stability management (PSM). This traction control system groups together a series of safety devices (including traction control, anti-slip control and Automatic Brake Differential– ABD) that had in the past worked independently of each other. Traction control now communicates with ABS and a brake differential control to create a system that can brake each wheel individually.

Visually the differences between the Carrera and C4 are limited to ‘Carrera 4’ badging, titanium
coloured callipers on the C4 (the Carrera has black items) and black wheel centres on new-design 17-
inch alloys.

In 2000 Porsche also upgraded the Carrera with the C4’s drive-by-wire electronic throttle mechanism
(E-Gas) and improved engine management (Motronic 7.2). This makes retrofitting of cruise control a lot easier.

If you don't want/need the benefits of 4 wheel drive (often associated with slightly heavier steering -less feel,more understeer worse fuel economy, and greater tyre wear) in MY2000 PSM became an option on the Carrera, so look out for that if you think you'd like it.

In terms of resale I don't think there is any difference. Purists prefer the regular Carrera for it's rear wheel drive feel, perhaps 'newbies' prefer the added safety and greater all weather useability of the Carrera 4.
Good post. Thanks.

Ecosseven

Original Poster:

2,379 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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585bhp said:
Ecosseven said:
I'm considering a 996 cabriolet as my next daily driver. Apart from the obvious traction advantages in slippery conditions offered by the 4wd system, what are the advantages and disadvantages of the two systems. I've listed my own thoughts below.

4WD = more weight, more parts to maintain and/or need replacing, smaller front boot. Better traction in the rain and snow. Not sure about handling?

2WD = less weight, purer driving experience?, bigger front boot, perhaps a handful in the snow?

The car will be used all year round in all conditions.

All the best.
Dood... you live in Abu Dhabi....
I'm currently working in Abu Dhabi but I live in Scotland, just North of Edinburgh.

Andyuk911

1,979 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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garyjones1962 said:
Callughan said:
My C4S was great in the snowsmile
+1 biggrin
-1, mine was rubbish

handbraketurn

1,397 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th November 2012
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Andyuk911 said:
garyjones1962 said:
Callughan said:
My C4S was great in the snowsmile
+1 biggrin
-1, mine was rubbish
I'm assuming alot of this is down to tyres, surely with winter tyres the awd system is pretty good in the snow?

jonamv8

3,288 posts

196 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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My C4S and Turbo, both great in the snow! Looking forward to its imminent arrival

Raitzi

640 posts

242 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Both are good in snow with right winter tires. Weight in the back really helps with traction.

rlw

3,589 posts

267 months

Monday 5th November 2012
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Raitzi said:
Both are good in snow with right winter tires. Weight in the back really helps with traction.
Quite - on summer tyres they can be as good as useless in snow

bullettneil

324 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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surely it also depends what you are used to driving? i went for my c4s for a couple of reasons.first being the wider arches(not relevent in your case if you are considering the normal carrera 4) and secondly i have had 3 4wd cars before and im used to the way they drive and handle. the understeer is a common 4wd problem,one of which i have gotten used to,i will say though that 4wd oversteer takes a bit of getting used to as when the front wheels grip whilst in a slide they grab quickly and will send you the way they are pointing.unlike a more predictable 2wd