traction control and grip
Discussion
Do you mean traction?
Grip and traction are quite different. In my opinion grip isn't and issue, but traction is when you're trying to get the power to the road.
The only answer is fitting the best and widest tyres/wheels that will fit to the car. Corvettes have the same engine and power as the VXR8 for example, but they get the power down due to 325 tyres on the rear!
M.
Grip and traction are quite different. In my opinion grip isn't and issue, but traction is when you're trying to get the power to the road.
The only answer is fitting the best and widest tyres/wheels that will fit to the car. Corvettes have the same engine and power as the VXR8 for example, but they get the power down due to 325 tyres on the rear!
M.
007 VXR said:
What can be done to help grip, and what options are there for better traction control ??
RaceLogic. Had it on numerous cars, came as Standard on the UK GTS-R's (although non adjustable). It is a fantastic bit of kit, and programmable so the parameters can be changed dependent on wheel sizes etc.Rapid GB do the installs, not sure about Monkfish?
To maximise what you have available re grip the best thing is Racelogic Traction Control.
This has 25 settings from dry to wet and allows a certain level of wheelspin before it cuts fuel giving the characteristic Baabaabaabaabaa sound you hear from some cars. (Yes I know I opted for the realistic sheep sound option on mine
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This system is far superiour to the std system which, for reasons of safety, should never be left switched on.
In the wet, even on a dry setting, Racelogic gives a very early warning that you are at the limit of traction, something really usefull if you are pushing hard through the gears and the grip level drops as all you`ll get is sheep and not slide.
I use it at the strip and it allows me max traction (Not saying a driving god can`t get more, but not me)
This has 25 settings from dry to wet and allows a certain level of wheelspin before it cuts fuel giving the characteristic Baabaabaabaabaa sound you hear from some cars. (Yes I know I opted for the realistic sheep sound option on mine
) This system is far superiour to the std system which, for reasons of safety, should never be left switched on.
In the wet, even on a dry setting, Racelogic gives a very early warning that you are at the limit of traction, something really usefull if you are pushing hard through the gears and the grip level drops as all you`ll get is sheep and not slide.
I use it at the strip and it allows me max traction (Not saying a driving god can`t get more, but not me)
pretty interesting thread, i find the standard traction control about as much use as tits on fish.
i never drive with it on. once went to overtake some cyclist's (in the damp), traction issue.....hard pedal.....me stranded in the middle of the road! with cars oncoming....not good!
there's always going to be a iimit to the amount of traction you can get, but isnt that what these cars are all about? simple engine, simple drivetrain= simple fun!!
surely it will be more cost effective, to get some wider wheels (as you can), good tyres, and learn to master the car?
if people are having to drive with traction control on i dont see anypoint in having the car.......(not a arrogant comment) just my 2ps worth!!!
i never drive with it on. once went to overtake some cyclist's (in the damp), traction issue.....hard pedal.....me stranded in the middle of the road! with cars oncoming....not good!
there's always going to be a iimit to the amount of traction you can get, but isnt that what these cars are all about? simple engine, simple drivetrain= simple fun!!
surely it will be more cost effective, to get some wider wheels (as you can), good tyres, and learn to master the car?
if people are having to drive with traction control on i dont see anypoint in having the car.......(not a arrogant comment) just my 2ps worth!!!
Wide wheels on a Monaro just arn`t an option, I have 285`s which have cost a LOT of money and they still ar`nt enough especially for a supercharged high torque low rev car.
There`s been plenty of these cars that have met their end due to over exuberance on the part of the driver, as long as its switchable I`d rather have a backup for the non hairy chested driving trips. ie when the kids are in the car
There`s been plenty of these cars that have met their end due to over exuberance on the part of the driver, as long as its switchable I`d rather have a backup for the non hairy chested driving trips. ie when the kids are in the car
k15tox said:
if people are having to drive with traction control on i dont see anypoint in having the car.......(not a arrogant comment) just my 2ps worth!!!
It really needs to be tried. With the adjustable system you can decide how much "slip" you want which will still allow you to get moderately sideways out of corners if you so desire, all the way through to looking through the side windows. It was demonstrated to me once, where you can keep your throttle pinned in a roundabout and the RLTC will the let you have as much power as you have available grip for. In dry conditions I would generally switch it off or leave at 10%.TerryS said:
k15tox said:
if people are having to drive with traction control on i dont see anypoint in having the car.......(not a arrogant comment) just my 2ps worth!!!
It really needs to be tried. With the adjustable system you can decide how much "slip" you want which will still allow you to get moderately sideways out of corners if you so desire, all the way through to looking through the side windows. It was demonstrated to me once, where you can keep your throttle pinned in a roundabout and the RLTC will the let you have as much power as you have available grip for. In dry conditions I would generally switch it off or leave at 10%.
Best thing you can do is get a powerful bike and learn to ride it properly in the wet. I leave my standard TC on in my Ro and have few issues, you just need to treat it with respect and drive smoothly.
Having said that, RL is next on my list; I have had it before and it's great. No substitute for getting it right with the right foot though!
Having said that, RL is next on my list; I have had it before and it's great. No substitute for getting it right with the right foot though!
stevieturbo said:
Traction control is more a safety feature than a performance mod.
And if you want grip, buy approproate tyres. Normal road tyres wont grip anywhere near the likes of 888's etc. But with winter coming, normal road tyres would make sense.
And if you want grip, buy approproate tyres. Normal road tyres wont grip anywhere near the likes of 888's etc. But with winter coming, normal road tyres would make sense.
Cant get 888's to fit the 19' alloys annoyingly!
Ive not experienced the std TC yet, yet again clearly im not driving it hard enough
after_shock said:
stevieturbo said:
Traction control is more a safety feature than a performance mod.
And if you want grip, buy approproate tyres. Normal road tyres wont grip anywhere near the likes of 888's etc. But with winter coming, normal road tyres would make sense.
Cant get 888's to fit the 19' alloys annoyingly!And if you want grip, buy approproate tyres. Normal road tyres wont grip anywhere near the likes of 888's etc. But with winter coming, normal road tyres would make sense.
Ive not experienced the std TC yet, yet again clearly im not driving it hard enough
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