Micro Men. Clive Sinclir Story on BBC4 now.
Micro Men. Clive Sinclir Story on BBC4 now.
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poo at Paul's

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14,471 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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Think this will be interesting, got a great cast too!

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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It's not portraying Clive in a good light!

hehe

cazzer

8,883 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th October 2009
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I've seen photo's from MENSA christmas parties and there were no women that looked like emilia fox there.

Technonotice

4,250 posts

208 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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I really enjoyed that. nerd

cazzer

8,883 posts

265 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Me too. I miss those days tbh.

Technology was raw, fun, and much more accesible.

Technonotice

4,250 posts

208 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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It did portray Sinclair to be a bit of a cock though. Was that the case?

clonmult

10,529 posts

226 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Technonotice said:
It did portray Sinclair to be a bit of a cock though. Was that the case?
I think they may have stretched things a little - he was slightly odious, especially with trying to get the QL out "on time". He totally ballsed that one up something rotten.

No getting around him being incredibly creative, and a very typical british inventor - hugely flawed, but incredibly talented.

Morningside

24,138 posts

246 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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cazzer said:
Me too. I miss those days tbh.

Technology was raw, fun, and much more accesible.
yes Oh, so true. Sitting down with your 22" b/w TV typing in some massive (1K) program.

I wrote a few games and a few control programs as well (using an I/O port) for fun.

Had access as well to an Apple ][ and slowly moved onto that and then onto 8051 programming for business but I dont think anything at the time beat the 'joy' of sitting quietly reading a book and learning all about Z80 assembly.... Until girls came along smile
(Still have lots of Apple ][ bits here all stored away).



Back to the programme:
Clive Sinclair is an obnoxious 'phone flinging ahole ? Really? Where were all these stories taken from....Curry?
If so, it has destroyed my image of him.



Edited by Morningside on Friday 9th October 10:05

clonmult

10,529 posts

226 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Morningside said:
cazzer said:
Me too. I miss those days tbh.

Technology was raw, fun, and much more accesible.
yes Oh, so true. Sitting down with your 22" b/w TV typing in some massive (1K) program.

I wrote a few games and a few control programs as well (using an I/O port) for fun.

Had access as well to an Apple ][ and slowly moved onto that and then onto 8051 programming for business but I dont think anything at the time beat the 'joy' of sitting quietly reading a book and learning all about Z80 assembly.... Until girls came along smile
(Still have lots of Apple ][ bits here all stored away).



Back to the programme:
Clive Sinclair is an obnoxious 'phone flinging ahole ? Really? Where were all these stories taken from....Curry?
If so, it has destroyed my image of him.



Edited by Morningside on Friday 9th October 10:05
I'm sure I'd read that he was a little volatile, and definitely a bit of a womaniser (with that hair? Bank balance obviously helped).

Hehe, MCS51 - used that in 3rd year of Uni. First experience of Intel assembler after years of 6502 and then ARM coding. Absolutely hated it. Not helped by our underspeccing the blasted kit - 128 bytes of RAM, no separate stack space.

Those were the days .....

Steamer

14,064 posts

230 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Very entertaining!

Just watched it on iplayer.

Those were the days! £1.99 (budget) games in Smiths... Although I was in the Amstrad camp.

simonrockman

7,012 posts

272 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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I'm surprised they didn't do a 'whare are they now' bit at the end.


Simon

SeeFive

8,353 posts

250 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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Dammit. Missed this.

I remember his stuff well. At the time of the Spectrum, I was an APL/COBOL analyst/programmer on IBM mainframes. One Christmas eve my brother phoned me up to say that he had bought his son a Sinclair computer, and "as I knew all about those computer things" could I go over and write some games for him. That was a long night of learning and hacking code. I can't remember the language but I think it might have been STOS - or maybe that was when he bought the Atari... dunno, ages ago.

Anyway, as you can probably imagine, they weren't the most exciting games you ever saw smile

Bright guy, but IMO could have done with some solid advice on how / whether to take his innovation to market in some cases.

Morningside

24,138 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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simonrockman said:
I'm surprised they didn't do a 'whare are they now' bit at the end.


Simon
yes That would have been a good idea. Although to be fair I cannot see Sinclair now contributing to any talk/discussion after portraying him like that!

I think someone should produce a 21st century Spectrum/ZX81 powered by 9v battery in the base and displayed onto an popup LCD.
A retro stocking filler.

Some people still like to fiddle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKu9qreiI3E&fea...

cazzer

8,883 posts

265 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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For those who still like to fiddle smile

Old school basic (It has sprites) smile
http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/

simonrockman

7,012 posts

272 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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If you enjoyed the programme you'll like my friedn Gordon's book: http://www.digitalretro.co.uk/

iamrcb

607 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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Watched this last night and abolutely loved it. Sir Clive was a bit too much "Armstrong and Miller Show" but it enjoyed it thoroughly.

poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,471 posts

192 months

Saturday 10th October 2009
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Sadto remember how we pioneered mass market computers in this country, and now we prety much make fxck all!

Maggie expaining to the Japanese guy about the "home computer" said it all really!

FourWheelDrift

91,146 posts

301 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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iamrcb said:
Watched this last night and abolutely loved it. Sir Clive was a bit too much "Armstrong and Miller Show" but it enjoyed it thoroughly.
That was just like Clive. Perhaps less of straight back when out jogging though.

Tuna

19,930 posts

301 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Haven't finished watching it, but it was quite entertaining. Not sure how accurate though.

I was under the impression that Chris Curry was as argumentative as Sinclair, so it seemed odd that he was portrayed as quite meek. My landlady worked for Sinclair and didn't seem to think he was so bad. The programme didn't make much of Sinclair's habit of buying cheap components and making them do things they just weren't designed for.

As for where are they now..

Sinclair Research still exists, largely producing bikes, radios and power assist units for wheelchairs.

Chris Curry set up a company called GIS in 1985, which specialises in Smart Cards and card readers.

Hermann Hauser was involved in the split of Acorn into Acorn and ARM, and founded a very successful venture capital company. Last I heard he was a non-exec director of Cambridge Display Technology which is one of the companies that developed OLED displays. Of all of the people in the story, I gather his success has been the most long lasting.

Roger Wilson went on to design the ARM chip that is produced in billions and powers many mobile phones. Unfortunately when ARM was split off from Acorn, he stayed with Acorn, which has since been consumed by Broadcom.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

278 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Tuna said:
Roger Wilson went on to design the ARM chip that is produced in billions and powers many mobile phones. Unfortunately when ARM was split off from Acorn, he stayed with Acorn, which has since been consumed by Broadcom.
Is he still called 'Roger' though? I heard something very odd was going on.