TA to cease training?

[Taffer]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8300530.stm

Apparently drill hall instruction, weekend exercises and other training are to cease for 6 months to save £20m.

While all TA troops going to Afghanistan get pre-deployment training with the regulars, how in the hell is this discontinuity in training going to benefit anyone, especially for the sake of £20m. I like the timing of the announcement too - at the weekend, so hopefully it'll blow over by Monday.

Next year, use your vote wisely.

[NismoGT]

I hope they are not planning on sending fresh TA recruits out to the middle east. £20M. Pathetic wkers.

[turbobloke]

Yet they waste £6m on global warming propaganda in Coronation Street cuppa breaks.

Muppets.

[Skywalker]

Is this the prelude to foreclosing on the Reserves for good?

[BruceV8]

£20M is a tiny drop in the defence budget ocean. It could be found elsewhere with little difficulty, seeing how much money the MOD wastes - especially on procurement. Plus the TA give relatively good value for money. There must be more to this.



[tinfoil hat]less members of the public floating around with miitary training?[/tinfoil hat]

[loltolhurst]

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

[eldar]

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

And close all the recruiting offices. Equally good value?

[Eric Mc]

The Treasury runs Britain. Don't people realiose this?

[pugwash4x4]

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

about £10?

[sadoksevoli]

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

And what about the CCFs in state schools? What's the difference?

Anyway having fed a tidbit to the troll, let's address the main topic - this cut is an utter disgrace - what message does it send out about the actual role of the TA: "we don't really take you seriously unless we can press-gang you into an operational tour or you're one of the mugs who actually would do it all for free and we can take for granted"? The TA has always been taken for granted and despite promises to fund it better things like this show what a shambles defence has become, and all for £20 million - let's put it this way - we pay out more in 2 hours on social security, a lot of which is to people who I wouldn't want to die for.

[Battenburg Bob]

The good news is that we not that broke, yet. HMG has looked down the back of the sofa and found £12m to give to Fairtrade.

""Secondly, we want to broaden the scope of Fairtrade products beyond tea and coffee to other areas and thirdly, we want to make sure that we're also able to persuade other retailers to come on board and to offer Fairtrade products.''"

[loltolhurst]

sadoksevoli said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

And what about the CCFs in state schools? What's the difference?

Anyway having fed a tidbit to the troll, let's address the main topic - this cut is an utter disgrace - what message does it send out about the actual role of the TA: "we don't really take you seriously unless we can press-gang you into an operational tour or you're one of the mugs who actually would do it all for free and we can take for granted"? The TA has always been taken for granted and despite promises to fund it better things like this show what a shambles defence has become, and all for £20 million - let's put it this way - we pay out more in 2 hours on social security, a lot of which is to people who I wouldn't want to die for.

didnt know they had ccf in state schools not being a peasant like you.

edited to say looks like they dont have much of ccf in state school:

"Just 260 of the 6,400 secondary schools have CCF units, almost all of them grammar or private schools. Ministers want to do "everything possible" to encourage more comprehensives and city academies to join up."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-2348594...

Edited by loltolhurst on Sunday 11th October 17:07

[loltolhurst]

pugwash4x4 said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

about £10?

£10 must buy you a lot of weapons these days then having seen the armory at more than 1 private school..

not sure how much the school pays for the kit if any, but if it doesnt it must be a fair wack.

[loltolhurst]

eldar said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

And close all the recruiting offices. Equally good value?

yep would suit me

[AndrewW-G]

loltolhurst said:

pugwash4x4 said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

about £10?

£10 must buy you a lot of weapons these days then having seen the armory at more than 1 private school..

not sure how much the school pays for the kit if any, but if it doesnt it must be a fair wack.

What in your opinion is the difference between a public school CCF and a state school CCF?

The Indepenent would seem to be of the opinion that CCF's at public schools are funded by the school and not the state, therefore any lack of funding for state scheme's CCF's is down to winky & co and the offer of sharing facilites with local state schools should be seen as a good an generous thing for the Public schools to do (I'm aware that local public schools are charged to use similar state facilities)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/educat...

Edited by AndrewW-G on Sunday 11th October 17:39

[loltolhurst]

AndrewW-G said:

loltolhurst said:

pugwash4x4 said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

about £10?

£10 must buy you a lot of weapons these days then having seen the armory at more than 1 private school..

not sure how much the school pays for the kit if any, but if it doesnt it must be a fair wack.

What in your opinion is the difference between a public school CCF and a state school CCF?

The Indepenent would seem to be of the opinion that CCF's at public schools are funded by the school and not the state, hence the lack of funding for state scheme's and the offer of sharing facilites with local state schools

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/educat...

there is no diff to me - the only reason i said private schools is that i did not realise state schools offer it. if the schools fund it fair enough but if the taxpayers do it seems a waste cw ditching training for the ta.

[AndrewW-G]

loltolhurst said:

AndrewW-G said:

loltolhurst said:

pugwash4x4 said:

loltolhurst said:

how about cutting the amount spent on private school ccfs first..

about £10?

£10 must buy you a lot of weapons these days then having seen the armory at more than 1 private school..

not sure how much the school pays for the kit if any, but if it doesnt it must be a fair wack.

What in your opinion is the difference between a public school CCF and a state school CCF?

The Indepenent would seem to be of the opinion that CCF's at public schools are funded by the school and not the state, hence the lack of funding for state scheme's and the offer of sharing facilites with local state schools

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/educat...

there is no diff to me - the only reason i said private schools is that i did not realise state schools offer it. if the schools fund it fair enough but if the taxpayers do it seems a waste cw ditching training for the ta.

According to informed sources (HM at local Grammar) the vast majority of Grammars used to have them, the original purpose was to groom the next generation of Officers and instil discipline into the pupils, hence it's adoption by Public and Grammar schools (where pupils are expected to go into jobs where leadership experience is required from the start), arguably the schools that would benefit most would be the more troubled schools where discipline and goal focus is lacking