How to prevent trees being cut down?
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Hi Everyone,
It looks like a lot of the area near my house is likely to be developed in the future as it's been identified as a "Strategic Development Location" as part of the government believing that lots and lots of new homes need to be built in the next 15 years
They're currently in the pre-planning stage but we want to get our feedback in as soon as possible to try to get the best solution.
There is currently a detached house with lots of trees (various species) on it's border. This would currently block our view of a fair portion of the new development area so ideally part of our objections/requests to the council would be that these trees are retained. Not only would they provide important coverage whilst building work was going on, i'd much rather look at trees than someone's new front door!
As the trees belong to the detached house next door, is there anything that we can do to prevent these trees (and the house next door) from being sold off as part of the whole development? It's currently identified within the overall boundary for the development.
We're currently in the estate on the right of this pic, and you can see the detached house/trees in the middle. The field below (but including the house) has been identified for development so it'd be a great shame to lose the tree cover.
And the current view we have (the trees we'd like to keep on the right)
Any advice on objections that are likely to be taken into serious consideration by a planning department (and not just dismissed as NIMBY) would be greatly welcomed!
Or..do we have no hope whatsoever!!??
Cheers
MrChips
It looks like a lot of the area near my house is likely to be developed in the future as it's been identified as a "Strategic Development Location" as part of the government believing that lots and lots of new homes need to be built in the next 15 years
They're currently in the pre-planning stage but we want to get our feedback in as soon as possible to try to get the best solution.
There is currently a detached house with lots of trees (various species) on it's border. This would currently block our view of a fair portion of the new development area so ideally part of our objections/requests to the council would be that these trees are retained. Not only would they provide important coverage whilst building work was going on, i'd much rather look at trees than someone's new front door!
As the trees belong to the detached house next door, is there anything that we can do to prevent these trees (and the house next door) from being sold off as part of the whole development? It's currently identified within the overall boundary for the development.
We're currently in the estate on the right of this pic, and you can see the detached house/trees in the middle. The field below (but including the house) has been identified for development so it'd be a great shame to lose the tree cover.
And the current view we have (the trees we'd like to keep on the right)
Any advice on objections that are likely to be taken into serious consideration by a planning department (and not just dismissed as NIMBY) would be greatly welcomed!
Or..do we have no hope whatsoever!!??
Cheers
MrChips
I'd see if you can find out about tree preservation orders. http://www.naturenet.net/trees/tpo.htm
But mainly I'd suggest actually talking to the local planning department ASAP and getting the word on exactly whats planned from the horses mouth so to speak.
Edit: damn too slow.
But mainly I'd suggest actually talking to the local planning department ASAP and getting the word on exactly whats planned from the horses mouth so to speak.
Edit: damn too slow.
Edited by Munter on Sunday 11th October 21:32
So you live on a modern housing estate built on what used to be someones view and you are complaining about more houses being built? 
As said above look o get TPOs on the trees, and do it now! Otherwise a develooper will buy the house, and fell the trees before submitting any applications!
As said above look o get TPOs on the trees, and do it now! Otherwise a develooper will buy the house, and fell the trees before submitting any applications!
Chrisgr31 said:
So you live on a modern housing estate built on what used to be someones view and you are complaining about more houses being built?
i rather thought that!_______
it's a tricky issue this isn;t it.
(speaking as a person who IS the guardian of huge trees)... on the one hand people get fed up about the lost light... but they like them because it stops you from being able to see the growing town..!
briSk said:
Chrisgr31 said:
So you live on a modern housing estate built on what used to be someones view and you are complaining about more houses being built?
i rather thought that!_______
it's a tricky issue this isn;t it.
(speaking as a person who IS the guardian of huge trees)... on the one hand people get fed up about the lost light... but they like them because it stops you from being able to see the growing town..!
I bought a new build just like that, which was next to a big detached house in large grounds. The people living in it had been there for years with lovely country views until our new estate blighted their scene.
They then had an offer from a developer and the new arrivals got up a petition to stop it happening.
When the nimbies knocked my door asking me to sign it I told them a few home truths.
When you buy a house never beleive the surroundings will stay the same.
I bet that spot was lovely until you lot turned up, and now your moaning because the same is happening to you.
Accept your fate, because it will happen whether you like it or not, your house proves that.
They then had an offer from a developer and the new arrivals got up a petition to stop it happening.
When the nimbies knocked my door asking me to sign it I told them a few home truths.
When you buy a house never beleive the surroundings will stay the same.
I bet that spot was lovely until you lot turned up, and now your moaning because the same is happening to you.
Accept your fate, because it will happen whether you like it or not, your house proves that.
Well the development WILL happen. Looking at the surrounding area it's clear that the fields are a potential "infill" location.
No reason why the line of trees acting as a border between you and the detached house shouldn't stay, though.
Do you know if the house owner is actually going to sell?
No reason why the line of trees acting as a border between you and the detached house shouldn't stay, though.
Do you know if the house owner is actually going to sell?
I forgot to mention, also be careful what you wish for.
In the example I gave, the house owner got so fed up of the moaning from the new neighbours that instead of selling the plot to the developer who was going to put a few nice houses on it, they accepted a bigger offer from Lidl, who know a thing or two about beating nimbies in planning disputes. So now instead of a view of some nice new houses, the neighbours look directly at a big grey ugly warehouse and carpark thats constantly busy with their classy customers and cars till 8 at night, 7 days a week. I bet the old owner still has a chuckle at that every time he spends some of Lidls pot of cash.
The plot on the pic looks ideal for a new Lidl as well.
In the example I gave, the house owner got so fed up of the moaning from the new neighbours that instead of selling the plot to the developer who was going to put a few nice houses on it, they accepted a bigger offer from Lidl, who know a thing or two about beating nimbies in planning disputes. So now instead of a view of some nice new houses, the neighbours look directly at a big grey ugly warehouse and carpark thats constantly busy with their classy customers and cars till 8 at night, 7 days a week. I bet the old owner still has a chuckle at that every time he spends some of Lidls pot of cash.
The plot on the pic looks ideal for a new Lidl as well.
Edited by PAUL. S on Monday 12th October 10:47
Thanks for the advice, looks like trying to get a TPO is our best bet.
Whilst I don't subscribe to the premise that just because our house/estate is relatively new that future planning should just go ahead without regard for the current residents, i'm not actually against some further development and i'm sure there are some positives such as a proposed new school etc.
It's a difficult situation but the council is publishing articles quoting "The area is characterised by existing small settlements set within a rural context. This character is considered worthy of retention"
I was aware when we bought the place that 'some' more housing may go up.. just that we were advised that the detached house (and it's trees) would remain.. thus giving us a little privacy against any extension to the estate.
The "Lidl" arguement is definitely noted tho!
Whilst I don't subscribe to the premise that just because our house/estate is relatively new that future planning should just go ahead without regard for the current residents, i'm not actually against some further development and i'm sure there are some positives such as a proposed new school etc.
It's a difficult situation but the council is publishing articles quoting "The area is characterised by existing small settlements set within a rural context. This character is considered worthy of retention"
I was aware when we bought the place that 'some' more housing may go up.. just that we were advised that the detached house (and it's trees) would remain.. thus giving us a little privacy against any extension to the estate.
The "Lidl" arguement is definitely noted tho!
gingerpaul said:
Why not pop over and talk to the owner of the house and talk about it? The chances are that if an estate is being built right next to them they'll be rather keen to keep them anyway.
I'd think they'd be more interesting in selling to the developer than worrying about the trees...Munter said:
gingerpaul said:
Why not pop over and talk to the owner of the house and talk about it? The chances are that if an estate is being built right next to them they'll be rather keen to keep them anyway.
I'd think they'd be more interesting in selling to the developer than worrying about the trees...Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff