MK I versus MKII

[MrsDTC]

Hi All,

I never did end up with my Griff last year (share values took a 'wee' bit of a hit!) but I'm now able to go shopping for (what I feel) something a little more refined - a Tuscan (much bigger boot for all my bags, too).

Not knowing much about the MKI or MKII Tuscans (apart from some of the external changes) I'm wondering if a MKII is worth the extra spend?

So, what's really changed?

Thanks everso,

MrsDTC.

[s6boy]

A quick trawl through the threads:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

[glow worm]

Depends if you want a full convertible or a Targa with removal roof panel ??? If full convertible has to be MK2 vert.... Look at the register at the top for a nice one.

[TOV!E]

I am going to open up a can of worms here, but having owned 3 tuscans, all i can say is the MK2 is 100% improvement on the MK1, the russian did make sure the cars were put together better.

[rens914]

looking at the finishing touch
i have seen a lot of tuscan's before buying mine
mk1's and mk2's
a lot of cars had bad linings
door's, bonnets, not closing windows etc (also T2's with the russian build)
i definitly have a good example and without the cat and with good springs/tyres i would be surprised if the tuscan 2 is much better car.

[Lucozade]

TOV!E said:

I am going to open up a can of worms here, but having owned 3 tuscans, all i can say is the MK2 is 100% improvement on the MK1, the russian did make sure the cars were put together better.

Totally agree. I'm on my 3rd Tuscan. First 2 were MK1s and my current MK2 is night and day different in build quality.

If you can stretch your budget I would go for a Mk2. Or alternatively look out for the occasion Mk1 with a TVR Power rebuild or 4.3 upgrade.

Edited by Lucozade on Tuesday 13th October 12:29

[MrsDTC]

Thanks for the comments, guys.

The price of the MKII's have come down quite a way in the last 12 months, so I'll keep my eyes open for a good car in a pretty colour.

[scotsitalian]

Need to consider that a lot of the Mk2's had updates from the Sagaris built is so the technology and build quality improved.
However, there is a price to pay and a well looked after Mk1 is easy to maintain.

[TOV!E]

scotsitalian said:

Need to consider that a lot of the Mk2's had updates from the Sagaris built is so the technology and build quality improved.
However, there is a price to pay and a well looked after Mk1 is easy to maintain.

Why is a MK1 easier to keep that a MK2 ?????????????????????????????????

[MrsDTC]

TOV!E said:

scotsitalian said:

Need to consider that a lot of the Mk2's had updates from the Sagaris built is so the technology and build quality improved.
However, there is a price to pay and a well looked after Mk1 is easy to maintain.

Why is a MK1 easier to keep that a MK2 ?????????????????????????????????

Good question, and one I was pondering, too.

[Mark A S]

I think your find scotsitalian said “easy”, not easier. Both are great cars, IMO, however, the Mk 1 has it on looks. I would buy on condition, not so much if it’s a newer spec car etc.
A good Mk 1 with upgraded suspension will be just as nice to drive as a Mk 2, albeit with slightly quicker steering.
I would buy a well sorted Mk 1 with a TVR power or such like engine rebuild over a Mk 2, I would say for less money to.
At the end of the day, go and drive a few, it’s a nice decision to have to make

[TOV!E]

Mark A S said:

I think your find scotsitalian said “easy”, not easier. Both are great cars, IMO, however, the Mk 1 has it on looks. I would buy on condition, not so much if it’s a newer spec car etc.
A good Mk 1 with upgraded suspension will be just as nice to drive as a Mk 2, albeit with slightly quicker steering.
I would buy a well sorted Mk 1 with a TVR power or such like engine rebuild over a Mk 2, I would say for less money to.
At the end of the day, go and drive a few, it’s a nice decision to have to make

Hi Mark, still dont get it,, why is it easy to maintain a mk1 then?????????????????

[GingerNinja]

TOV!E said:

Mark A S said:

I think your find scotsitalian said “easy”, not easier. Both are great cars, IMO, however, the Mk 1 has it on looks. I would buy on condition, not so much if it’s a newer spec car etc.
A good Mk 1 with upgraded suspension will be just as nice to drive as a Mk 2, albeit with slightly quicker steering.
I would buy a well sorted Mk 1 with a TVR power or such like engine rebuild over a Mk 2, I would say for less money to.
At the end of the day, go and drive a few, it’s a nice decision to have to make

Hi Mark, still dont get it,, why is it easy to maintain a mk1 then?????????????????

I think his point was that you're saving on the purchase price if you get a Mk1 and a good one will be easy (ie inexpensive) to maintain. I don't think it was a comment about the Mk2.

[Mark A S]

TOV!E, Apologies if your confused, I am now No, I did not infer a Mk 1 was any easier to maintain than a Mk 2, in fact I made no comment on maintaining the Tuscan, but as we are on the subject, so long as you get them serviced regularly, and have a bit of mechanical/electrical knowledge, they are not difficult cars to look after.

[so called]

Loved my Mk1 but my Mk2 is absolutely fantastic.

[m0ssy]

Every car is different.

Some will be better maintained than others.

A MK1 is rarer I believe, hazarding a guess I would say perhaps 2,000 made. 1,000 still on the road with perhaps only 500 of those being top quality, ie. cosmetics are good as well as negligable CAM wear, inlet/ outlet gaps good and maintained. Always correct warmup procedures etc meaning a sorted car. Ihere of some MK1 engines without rebuilds on 40000 miles and still running fine with no signs of wear.

Of these 500 I would suspect most are loved by their owners and have all the necessary upgrades to make them planted and sorted on the road.

I think there are a few more MK2's about, numbers Im not sure on. So... whats more collectable?

To be honest... would I swap mine or sell it to finance a MK2...? nope! she is staying with me as its one of the 500

[NCE 61]

m0ssy said:

I think there are a few more MK2's about

Think that would be the other way around,the MK1 was produced for nearly five year's and the MK2 for less than two years.

I realy liked my 2000 MK1 although it was a bit under developed and the build quality was not realy as it should have been. My current 2006 MK2 S Targa is very well put together and the six years plus of refinement realy do show.

Just get one that's been looked after and had the necessary up-grades if applicable.

[glow worm]

I don't get that either , with 1700 MK1s, 80 MK2 Targas and 105 (or 83 depending upon whose figures) MK2 convertibles produced consider yourself lucky if you can find a MK2... especially a Targa with a vert dash.

Edited by glow worm on Tuesday 13th October 18:20

[Droptheclutch]

I've found a MKII (vert) for the Mrs...but it's a cat d...

Just panel damage due to ice on the road last Feb during the cold snap. It seems £22k will get the Mrs a non damaged car, however she really likes the colour (women!).

Whats it worth? One owner from new, 30k on the clock. Excellent condition (due to respray I suppose!) Top mechanical order, too. £18K?

[Lucozade]

Droptheclutch said:

I've found a MKII (vert) for the Mrs...but it's a cat d...

Just panel damage due to ice on the road last Feb during the cold snap. It seems £22k will get the Mrs a non damaged car, however she really likes the colour (women!).

Whats it worth? One owner from new, 30k on the clock. Excellent condition (due to respray I suppose!) Top mechanical order, too. £18K?

Just think how easy it will be to sell on if you have to. I'm sure most buyers will be put off a Cat D registered car and opt for another.