This must have been horriffic!
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prand

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6,216 posts

212 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Girl loses fingers in art class:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/83...

This poor girl, what a tragic accident. The skin must literally have been cooked off her hands.

I have experienced a bit of heat from setting Aradlite, but I've never heard of the dangers of plaster of Paris before.



Edited by prand on Monday 12th October 16:23

johnfm

13,706 posts

266 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Not sure why your post has a big smiley next to it.

Any if I were the parents, I'd be suing those useless fkers at the school for considerably more than £16k.

They'd never work again.

Actually, if that happened to my daughter, I'd make sure they never walked again.

Idiots.


J5

2,449 posts

202 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Am i reading it correctly?

She was told to put her hands in clay... but decided to actually put them into a bucket of plaster, that was setting...

So she got her own hands stuck, through stupidity?

S1MMA

2,446 posts

235 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Looks that way, she wasnt told to put her hands in the plaster.

Schools can't be 100% safe, especially technology classes etc... you need robust H&S rules for sure, but you can't stop all accidents.

Mr Sea

4,720 posts

241 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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That is utterly dreadful, poor girl, is it me or is 16k feeble? it should be more like 160k her life is going to be much harder with those injures!

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

205 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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J5 said:
Am i reading it correctly?

She was told to put her hands in clay... but decided to actually put them into a bucket of plaster, that was setting...

So she got her own hands stuck, through stupidity?
Yup, you read it correctly.

Unfortunately, this will result in more H&S whereby a trained scientist wearing a hazmat uniform will be required in every art class.

Next week look out for boy with no limbs after he jumped in a blender instead of the swimming pool like he was asked to.

prand

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6,216 posts

212 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Sorry hit the wrong smilie.

I am quite amazed to see how none of the staff or paramedics were able to break the lump up either. All very sad.


elster

17,517 posts

226 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Why the payout?

Girl gets injured ignoring teachers instructions.

Also shouldn't they maybe have called the Fire Brigade? Or the CDT department with a saw?

TankRizzo

7,761 posts

209 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Ouch. I can only imagine how painful that must have been for the poor girl, irrespective of fault.

Slowly burning your digits off doesn't sound great in anyone's world.

johnfm

13,706 posts

266 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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elster said:
Why the payout?

Girl gets injured ignoring teachers instructions.

Also shouldn't they maybe have called the Fire Brigade? Or the CDT department with a saw?
I read it as girl misunderstanding teacher's instructions.

There is no mention of her ignoring them.

If the possible outcome of misunderstanding an instruction is loss of 8 digits, I think there is an issue.

Accidents do happen. And a seemingly harmless plaster of paris incident has been shown to be pretty harmful - I'm not sure the girl should suffer the inevitable disadvantages that she will now contend with.


s2art

18,942 posts

269 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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But you do have to ask why it took so long to free her. FFS its only plaster of Paris, a normal drill would have done the job.
Edited to add, or a big feck off hammer and chisel

Edited by s2art on Monday 12th October 18:39

elster

17,517 posts

226 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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johnfm said:
elster said:
Why the payout?

Girl gets injured ignoring teachers instructions.

Also shouldn't they maybe have called the Fire Brigade? Or the CDT department with a saw?
I read it as girl misunderstanding teacher's instructions.

There is no mention of her ignoring them.

If the possible outcome of misunderstanding an instruction is loss of 8 digits, I think there is an issue.

Accidents do happen. And a seemingly harmless plaster of paris incident has been shown to be pretty harmful - I'm not sure the girl should suffer the inevitable disadvantages that she will now contend with.

This isn't a youngster though. This is a 16 year old girl.

Making a cast of her hand.

It is pretty bad damage. Are the school to blame? No. Is the teacher to blame? Well as the rest of the students managed it, No.

Just a fk up by the girl. So why pay out?


HRG.

72,863 posts

255 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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musclecarmad said:
even if she wasn't told to do it i still feel 100% sorry for her.

we have all messed around at school doing silly things - hell that's not even stupid. I'd probably have done it given half a chance - who was to know that it would burn her. The poor poor girl - more safety needed there. Its not as if she put her head on a bunsen burner etc.

I feel so so sorry for her.
Err, my brother set fire to himself with a Bunsen burner in a chemistry O level!

Poor kid frown

Bill

55,999 posts

271 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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elster said:
Why the payout?
It's a fine, isn't it?


croyde

24,935 posts

246 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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So how come no problems when you get a cast then?

s2art

18,942 posts

269 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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elster said:
johnfm said:
elster said:
Why the payout?

Girl gets injured ignoring teachers instructions.

Also shouldn't they maybe have called the Fire Brigade? Or the CDT department with a saw?
I read it as girl misunderstanding teacher's instructions.

There is no mention of her ignoring them.

If the possible outcome of misunderstanding an instruction is loss of 8 digits, I think there is an issue.

Accidents do happen. And a seemingly harmless plaster of paris incident has been shown to be pretty harmful - I'm not sure the girl should suffer the inevitable disadvantages that she will now contend with.

This isn't a youngster though. This is a 16 year old girl.

Making a cast of her hand.

It is pretty bad damage. Are the school to blame? No. Is the teacher to blame? Well as the rest of the students managed it, No.

Just a fk up by the girl. So why pay out?
Duty of care I suppose. But perhaps the school/teacher might have reacted faster. Probably some dippy arts and crafts teacher.

Bill

55,999 posts

271 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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croyde said:
So how come no problems when you get a cast then?
It's a smaller amount of plaster and spread more thinly, it does get hot though.

Graham E

12,993 posts

202 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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i'm baffled.
If there was a person being burnt in plaster in front of me, I'd hammer the bugger till it broke and she got her hands out. Which einstein didn't do this?
Or cold running water? I know plastr isn't very conductive, but a heatsink at 15 deg C would have helped, shirly?

lord summerisle

8,166 posts

241 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Bill said:
elster said:
Why the payout?
It's a fine, isn't it?
exactly
BBC said:
The school admitted breaching health and safety rules.

It also admitted failing to report the matter to the Health and Safety Executive (HSE), which only found out about what happened from the girl's plastic surgeon.

Pesty

42,655 posts

272 months

Monday 12th October 2009
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Graham E said:
i'm baffled.
If there was a person being burnt in plaster in front of me, I'd hammer the bugger till it broke and she got her hands out. Which einstein didn't do this?
Or cold running water? I know plastr isn't very conductive, but a heatsink at 15 deg C would have helped, shirly?
The teacher was probably very good at writing essays and doing arty things and maybe not very practical or having much common sense.

orperhaps they were not alerted to teh problem until too late

Maybe they were more worried about injuring the girls hands by removing the plaster so just stood there being indecisive.

perhaps they did everything possible.

Surley the girl must have felt things heating up and long before it got too uncomfortable and too set she could have removed them or at least raised the alarm at that point?



Edited by Pesty on Monday 12th October 19:10