Are all film remakes awful?
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aclivity

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205 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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I sat through the remake of Rollerball last night, I recall loving the original so thought it would be worth a watch.

I was wrong, it was dreadful.

Are any remakes any good? You'd have thought with 20 or 30 years more experience, newer actors, modern special effects, there could be some really excellent films out there. Perhaps because of the lack of effects in older filmsthey had to have better acting and characterisation?

The only remake that anyone here can suggest as being better than the original is Oceans 11; I'm not sure I'm convinced by this. Other remakes are only really nominal ones, like Pelham 123 and Italian Job - share the same name, but no (or very few) plot elements to speak of.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Taxi.

oh, wait...

philwhite

259 posts

198 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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I agree that most are rubbish, one exception that comes to mind however is Cape Fear.

Edited by philwhite on Tuesday 13th October 10:11

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

278 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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The Fly?

RizzoTheRat

27,036 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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3:10 to Yuma
Brewsters Millions
Magnificent Seven
Little shop of horrors
12 Monkeys

Not seen the originals of all those but I like the remakes.

The turkeys do seem to outweigh the good ones though. Apparently there's a remake of Barbarella due next year. The original was pretty different for the time, don't really see what a remake's going to add. And don't get me started on the Italian job!

Halb

53,012 posts

200 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Maltese Falcon.

Ciaran

1,461 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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LA Takedown was remade into Heat - Heat is much the better film, IMO of course.

Muzzer

3,814 posts

238 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Ocean's Eleven.

Original = crap
Clooney & co = whilst not Oscar winning, entertaining.

Emeye

9,780 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Casino Royale?

markh1

2,846 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Batman Begins and the dark knight are far better than the ones from the 80's/90's or whenever they were made.

Dracoro

8,913 posts

262 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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markh1 said:
Batman Begins and the dark knight are far better than the ones from the 80's/90's or whenever they were made.
You do know what a REMAKE is don't you? Do you? Really? winkbiggrin Anyway Batman and Batman Returns are great, BB and dark knight are good and the other two are complete crap.

TEKNOPUG

19,913 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Because generally it isn’t about making a good film, it’s about making money.

You take a successful, well known film and remake it, then bask in it’s reflective glory, receive lots of free publicity and expectant hype. It’s just very lazy mass-market film-making. The key problem is that you are copying an already successful film, which yours is going to be compared to and ultimately the remake won’t be as good.

I’ve often wondered though about how many thousands of films that have been made that had a great story/concept but were never good, popular films. Small budgets, poor directing, casting, acting etc.

It seems rare though that someone picks up one of these films and thinks “that could have been a great film; great story, great characters but the movie was badly made. I’m sure that we could make it much better and do the story justice….”

So much easier to say, “That film was brilliant! Lets just copy it and I version is also bound to be a success!”. The argument that “we’re bringing it to a new audience who never saw the original…” is nonsense – just re-release the original in that case!!!

Pommygranite

14,440 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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I've heard that for the next few years all the big budget films will be either sequels or remakes. Apparently its so that the studios know they will make money rather than hoping an untried idea might make it.

Its these lean years see.....

hairykrishna

14,115 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Ciaran said:
LA Takedown was remade into Heat - Heat is much the better film, IMO of course.
That's something of a strange case though. Made by the same guy and the only real difference was that, for Heat, he had the budget to do what he wanted to originally.


mat205125

17,790 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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stilllife said:
invasion of the bodysnatchers, the donald sutherland one
yes

First film that I though of too.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,896 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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John Carpenter's remake of the 1950s film The Thing...


Jonny671

29,678 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Thomas Crown Affair?

Animal

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285 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Jonny671 said:
Thomas Crown Affair?
yes

Jonny671

29,678 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Animal said:
Jonny671 said:
Thomas Crown Affair?
yes
Thomas Crown Affair, the newer one was the first DVD I bought myself (I'm only young by the way laugh)

Then watched the original one and didn't think much of it!

SirClarke

633 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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The departed - excellent remake, excellent original.