Can you flood an FI car?
Can you flood an FI car?
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BigNige

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Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Been away for 5 days and just gone to start the X308 and it just turns over and coughs.
It did briefly fire up but then stopped again and now even with a booster pack on it, wont fire up.

It feels like the old flooded carb syndrome but hence my question in the title.

I'll leave it until morning now and have some wine instead biggrin.

If worse comes to worse, can the fuel pump be replaced in situ (so to speak)?

BigNige

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Tuesday 13th October 2009
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I can hear the fuel pump whirring when the ignition is turned on so am guessing that's ok.

Is there an injector fuse?

Does this seem reasonable?
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1towj-1998-jag...

The car wss shunted around the drive just before I went away.



Edited by BigNige on Tuesday 13th October 22:18

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Yes its flooded. Its so common you wouldn't believe it.

Get the battery on charge and by the time its fully juiced I'll have found my guide to restarting them in that state.

BigNige

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Tame Technician said:
Yes its flooded. Its so common you wouldn't believe it.

Get the battery on charge and by the time its fully juiced I'll have found my guide to restarting them in that state.
Thankyou my man - 'tis charging as we squeak. smile

Tame Technician

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Tuesday 13th October 2009
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Its gonna smoke like fk when it finally goes, dont worry its not blown up or anything.

BigNige

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Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Cheers fella, I'll give that a go tomorrow and report back.

smile

Tame Technician

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Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Fingers crossed then.

You really have to have a bit of faith and keep it cranking, none of this turn over for a few seconds and let go of the key nonsense.

Alternatively, If you know where it is, you can take the fuel pump relay out crank for an entire minute on full throttle, put the relay back in and start it up.... vroom.

But the way described by me in the thread works best, as you can modulate the throttle and tease it into life.

TT

adu

100 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th October 2009
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Had success using the oil down the plug holes myself after the old girl had stood for two weeks and me giving it a revving before i went on holiday,
just don't get too concerned over the amount of smoke that comes out lol ,
and don't recomend doing this a week before an MOT ,
in the end i used some forte cleaner to help remove the oil i put in , it must have smothered the CATS and sensors ,

>>andy

best of luck Nige

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th October 2009
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TT's right - you must keep going with the starter which means mahoosive battery reserve. You'll hear the engine spinning over much faster than usual when you turn the key, without the usual whump, whump, whump of compression. Once the regular beat starts to appear that's the time to modulate the throttle to a position where the engine starts to speed up again.

Hard to describe but easy to suss when you hear it happening.

BigNige

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Wednesday 14th October 2009
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Well I did all the foot to the floor and throttle pumping stuff, even had a booster pack on the std battery too but to no avail.
The engine was trying fire but I guess there just wasn't enough compression.

I am a mechanical moron and didn't want to risk pulling things apart and it getting dark or rainy (have to work outside) or it just going plain wrong...so it's been Green Flagged to my friendly local garage to get sorted.

Should get it back tomorrow I'm told - they gave me knowing nods and looks when I told them what had happened.

Hey ho - if nothing else I've learned not to shunt the car.

Thanks for all the fantastic advice guys, it's really appreciated.smile

Edited by BigNige on Wednesday 14th October 15:29

BigNige

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Thursday 15th October 2009
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Next question;

How do I know when the cold cycle has finished and it's safe to switch off and avoid flooding the old gal?

Tame Technician

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Thursday 15th October 2009
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hhhmmm good question. I dont know but I'd guess if the temp gauge isnt up to very near its normal position.

You can turn it off when its cold, but you need to clear it out before you do.

A few good blips of throttle and or hold it at 3000rpm for 15 secs or so to clear it out before you switch off. When its on cold start you will see the smoke when you clear it out.

NormanD

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257 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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It's not just Jags this happens too, many modern cars with ECUs this will happen.

I've even know it to happen to an Oil Burning VW Golf

BigNige

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Friday 16th October 2009
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NormanD said:
It's not just Jags this happens too, many modern cars with ECUs this will happen.

I've even know it to happen to an Oil Burning VW Golf
Is that fixed by squirting petrol down the bores?

biggrin

NormanD

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Friday 16th October 2009
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BigNige said:
NormanD said:
It's not just Jags this happens too, many modern cars with ECUs this will happen.

I've even know it to happen to an Oil Burning VW Golf
Is that fixed by squirting petrol down the bores?
No just kept turning the engine over without a pause and the throttle down to the floor.
The engine then spattered into life with black smoke comming from the exhaust