Track Day: Photo's v Video's?
Discussion
Generally you find at track days there are photographers, and people pay say 30 quid ish for 40 ish photo's.
How many people would pay similar or maybe slightly less, for say 5-10 mins of high def in-car footage and a few laps of trackside footage of your car on a dvd, with a slow-mo drift option (if you can drift and want it in slo-mo that is)
depending on lenght of the video footage in total say between 20 and 30 quid.
Professionally rigged and professional Hi-Def camera's.
What to we think?
oh and these camera's can take stills aswell so option of a few stills too.
J
How many people would pay similar or maybe slightly less, for say 5-10 mins of high def in-car footage and a few laps of trackside footage of your car on a dvd, with a slow-mo drift option (if you can drift and want it in slo-mo that is)
depending on lenght of the video footage in total say between 20 and 30 quid.
Professionally rigged and professional Hi-Def camera's.
What to we think?
oh and these camera's can take stills aswell so option of a few stills too.
J
hyperblue said:
I would gladly pay for some drive by footage, if it was from different parts of the track. In car, not so much - I have my own camera, plus it's usually not that interesting to watch (exceptions being offs and overtakes etc).
the idea would be to try and get a shot from every corner, maybe a few different angles Edited by hyperblue on Thursday 15th October 12:55
hyperblue said:
Sounds good Would definitely pay for that, after a preview of the footage at least. Would it not be quite time consuming to cut the footage up though? Whenever I've edited movies myself it takes ages!
Super fast computers and top software, 9 times out of then though it would be a post out job not done on the day. just because if you rush it it wont look quite as good. Would definitely pay for that, after a preview of the footage at least. Would it not be quite time consuming to cut the footage up though? Whenever I've edited movies myself it takes ages!also nearly forgot to mention that you can choose the music that is laid over the top, or just no music if you have a nice sounding engine
jarnold88 said:
hyperblue said:
I would gladly pay for some drive by footage, if it was from different parts of the track. In car, not so much - I have my own camera, plus it's usually not that interesting to watch (exceptions being offs and overtakes etc).
the idea would be to try and get a shot from every corner, maybe a few different angles Edited by hyperblue on Thursday 15th October 12:55
http://thetrackdayclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1...
there are a couple of video's on here that we did.
excuse the jerkynes we didnt have a tripod at the time, but we do now
there are a couple of video's on here that we did.
excuse the jerkynes we didnt have a tripod at the time, but we do now
I have seen companies offering trackday videos, but from memory they have been much more expensive than what you are quoting. I think you may find that the logistics are harder than it initially seems:
If you are on a "sessions" day, the in-car cameras will be locked into the car for the full session and you wont be able to swap it over into the next customers car if they are in the next session. Therefore you will need 2 in-car setups.
The same goes for the track-side cameras. Trackdays are generally fairly boring to watch (compared to racing) because the number of incidents is less. So to have a good chance of catching the action you will need cameras stationed at very nearly every corner.
If you could manage all those overheads (many cameras and operators aswell as editing) and still be able to offer the video for about £30 then I think you could do very well. However I suspect that the interest might not be as high as you think it is which will mean that either your quality reduces (as you choose to use fewer cameras) or your purchase price goes up dramatically.
ETA: you will probably also find that trackday organisers get rather annoyed at you if you are encouraging their customers to drift!
If you are on a "sessions" day, the in-car cameras will be locked into the car for the full session and you wont be able to swap it over into the next customers car if they are in the next session. Therefore you will need 2 in-car setups.
The same goes for the track-side cameras. Trackdays are generally fairly boring to watch (compared to racing) because the number of incidents is less. So to have a good chance of catching the action you will need cameras stationed at very nearly every corner.
If you could manage all those overheads (many cameras and operators aswell as editing) and still be able to offer the video for about £30 then I think you could do very well. However I suspect that the interest might not be as high as you think it is which will mean that either your quality reduces (as you choose to use fewer cameras) or your purchase price goes up dramatically.
ETA: you will probably also find that trackday organisers get rather annoyed at you if you are encouraging their customers to drift!
Edited by speedychrissie on Thursday 15th October 15:15
eco jleroux there.
I do some freelance photography and have looked into the business model of doing track day stuff and from what ive found its pretty old hat to be honest.
90% of trackday organisers/tracks will already have established companys/freelancers that will cover there days for said £20/30 for a number of shots or video and im sure they would have something to say about someone turning up and under cutting them.
Just all my opinion of course.
I wish you all the luck in your venture.
PS if it does work out and you need a tog let me know ;oP
I do some freelance photography and have looked into the business model of doing track day stuff and from what ive found its pretty old hat to be honest.
90% of trackday organisers/tracks will already have established companys/freelancers that will cover there days for said £20/30 for a number of shots or video and im sure they would have something to say about someone turning up and under cutting them.
Just all my opinion of course.
I wish you all the luck in your venture.
PS if it does work out and you need a tog let me know ;oP
Pixel-Snapper said:
eco jleroux there.
I do some freelance photography and have looked into the business model of doing track day stuff and from what ive found its pretty old hat to be honest.
90% of trackday organisers/tracks will already have established companys/freelancers that will cover there days for said £20/30 for a number of shots or video and im sure they would have something to say about someone turning up and under cutting them.
Just all my opinion of course.
I wish you all the luck in your venture.
PS if it does work out and you need a tog let me know ;oP
TBH its not a business venture, just trying to do something fun in our spare tiem and make some money doing it, we're not after becoming millionare's thru it or anything.I do some freelance photography and have looked into the business model of doing track day stuff and from what ive found its pretty old hat to be honest.
90% of trackday organisers/tracks will already have established companys/freelancers that will cover there days for said £20/30 for a number of shots or video and im sure they would have something to say about someone turning up and under cutting them.
Just all my opinion of course.
I wish you all the luck in your venture.
PS if it does work out and you need a tog let me know ;oP
the idea is to have a bit of fun, make a little bit of extra cash and give some people something they would like without being extortionate
im going to be working on most day that "thetrackdayclub" run up at teesside as my dad helps run them and they have said its fine. so im just going to see what happens, actually up there tomorrow J
I like to entertain when on track.... so i prob would;
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Just to give you some idea of "the competition", here is some footage from Mallory shot by a company doing in car video for about £30 IIRC. It was a pretty slick set up with the speed, track position and driver cam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyLKx97PMTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyLKx97PMTY
Edited by benny.c on Thursday 15th October 22:31
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