Kit availability using Honda CTR as doner
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Hi Folks
Just an early sounding out really. I currently drive a honda civic type r to get the shopping etc (BOOOOO!)
It will last a few more years before the doors start dropping off but I'm soon to move house and inherit a large double garage (HOOORAAAAH!)
So, are there any kits available to build up using cannibalised bits from the CTR? I don't know what to search for in google and I'm getting nowhere.
Thanks in advance
Just an early sounding out really. I currently drive a honda civic type r to get the shopping etc (BOOOOO!)
It will last a few more years before the doors start dropping off but I'm soon to move house and inherit a large double garage (HOOORAAAAH!)
So, are there any kits available to build up using cannibalised bits from the CTR? I don't know what to search for in google and I'm getting nowhere.
Thanks in advance
Which gen? I think there's a Canadian kit - but IIRC it's a panel kit (not much use if the donor is dust) and not exactly a stunner. I'll see if I can find anything.
You could always see how much duke1198s wants for his midtec chassis, (which includes the suspension) and at least use your drivetrain.
You could always see how much duke1198s wants for his midtec chassis, (which includes the suspension) and at least use your drivetrain.
seansverige said:
Which gen? I think there's a Canadian kit - but IIRC it's a panel kit (not much use if the donor is dust) and not exactly a stunner. I'll see if I can find anything.
You could always see how much duke1198s wants for his midtec chassis, (which includes the suspension) and at least use your drivetrain.
It's an EP3 registered 2002. Done 50K miles now after nearly 8 years so I'm guessing the chassis will rot away long before the engine bites the dust which is why I had the idea of allowing the engine to live on for a bitYou could always see how much duke1198s wants for his midtec chassis, (which includes the suspension) and at least use your drivetrain.
2002 / 50k!?! Unless you drive to work across a beach there should be plenty of life in the old dog yet.
By all means build a kit, but I'd base it in another donor & run the CTR into the ground and cross that bridge when you come to it - or treat the CTR as a project car: it might be FWD but it's the last of the wishbone suspension ones isn't it? And there must be plenty of bits available.
By all means build a kit, but I'd base it in another donor & run the CTR into the ground and cross that bridge when you come to it - or treat the CTR as a project car: it might be FWD but it's the last of the wishbone suspension ones isn't it? And there must be plenty of bits available.
Found it! It was Vitesse sportscars - 'was' being the operative word: the website's no longer up. Ontario based Civic rebody - IIRC you were able to convert the hatch to this convertible, though the pictures below might explain why they're apparently no longer a going concern....
- Thumbsnap's not working - will try later*
seansverige said:
2002 / 50k!?! Unless you drive to work across a beach there should be plenty of life in the old dog yet.
By all means build a kit, but I'd base it in another donor & run the CTR into the ground and cross that bridge when you come to it - or treat the CTR as a project car: it might be FWD but it's the last of the wishbone suspension ones isn't it? And there must be plenty of bits available.
It'll be a fair few years before I do anything with the kit or the CTR, I was just wondering for now what to aspire to about perhaps 10 years down the line with it. I'd guess there'll be more choice by thenBy all means build a kit, but I'd base it in another donor & run the CTR into the ground and cross that bridge when you come to it - or treat the CTR as a project car: it might be FWD but it's the last of the wishbone suspension ones isn't it? And there must be plenty of bits available.
To be honest, as per my last post although I think the Civic is ripe for the picking as a donor it's unlikely to happen: in reality it's kinda hard to make a case for it over a Focus / Ford based kit. I also think as time goes on it's even less likely - this was effectively the last evolution of the EJ1 before the major change to the 8th gen: if there was going to be a kit it would be here by now (btw looked at wiki: the EP3 is when the change was made to strut, though they managed to maintain the bonnet line - impressive)
I guess the best chance would be to check in other markets (the Vitesse was based in Ontario), otherwise it'll be acquiring a Sonic7 or sevenalike and modifying it to take the VTEC drivetrain
I guess the best chance would be to check in other markets (the Vitesse was based in Ontario), otherwise it'll be acquiring a Sonic7 or sevenalike and modifying it to take the VTEC drivetrain
Thanks for the input. A kit is definitely on the cards at some point in my life especially with the acquisition of the double garage and the kids growing up and buggering off. It's one of those "Things that must be done before I die" scenarios. I love the engine and gearbox of the Civic, it just seems to be crying out to be put in a sub 500kg package. I guess there are plenty of other options to explore and keep the Civic as it is for the time being
Thinking about it, a VTEC drivetrain might be a sit well between a bike engine and a 'regular' car engine: rev happy when you're in the mood, but doesn't have to be all the time, unlike a BEC
I wouldn't say my knowledge is by any means definitive - am just looking at the kitcar scene for the first time in years. Was about to suggest that madabout-kitcars.com might have ability to search by donor, so I checked: there is, and there's an entry for a Honda Civic - the Marlin 5exi.
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kit_cars_se...
enjoy
I wouldn't say my knowledge is by any means definitive - am just looking at the kitcar scene for the first time in years. Was about to suggest that madabout-kitcars.com might have ability to search by donor, so I checked: there is, and there's an entry for a Honda Civic - the Marlin 5exi.
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kit_cars_se...
enjoy
yes they do, and the only RWD Honda is the S-2000, and though fantastic, the engine is very tall which makes it difficult to install into anything but the tallest of 7's (and for some of those it can only be done if you put a dry sump on it).
No, what's needed to use the Honda drive trains is a mid engined design much like the Car formerly known as the Spectre or maybe even a Riot. The advantage over the Ford is an engine that is much smoother revving, lasts much longer, is more reliable, and mostly isn't a Ford. OK, maybe the last part is a little harsh, but I'm writing from the States, and their record is pretty abysmal over here. The Honda OTOH are a tuners delight. I've owned like 3 of them and sisn't have a lick of trouble with any of them. Also, the JDM engines are bought quite cheaply and there are tons of options that will net you 160-220 HP for a stock engine without any mods for less than a grand (1000 pounds).
No, what's needed to use the Honda drive trains is a mid engined design much like the Car formerly known as the Spectre or maybe even a Riot. The advantage over the Ford is an engine that is much smoother revving, lasts much longer, is more reliable, and mostly isn't a Ford. OK, maybe the last part is a little harsh, but I'm writing from the States, and their record is pretty abysmal over here. The Honda OTOH are a tuners delight. I've owned like 3 of them and sisn't have a lick of trouble with any of them. Also, the JDM engines are bought quite cheaply and there are tons of options that will net you 160-220 HP for a stock engine without any mods for less than a grand (1000 pounds).
Put the engine and box into the back of an Elise - works a treat!
Not a kit car but a very worthy conversion - we've done one on a series 1 Elise and have a customer wanting us to do a series 2 car now.
Gives the Elise the grunt to really make the chassis come alive - and the sound behind you is fantastic!
Not a kit car but a very worthy conversion - we've done one on a series 1 Elise and have a customer wanting us to do a series 2 car now.
Gives the Elise the grunt to really make the chassis come alive - and the sound behind you is fantastic!
neilrallying said:
Put the engine and box into the back of an Elise - works a treat!
Not a kit car but a very worthy conversion - we've done one on a series 1 Elise and have a customer wanting us to do a series 2 car now.
Gives the Elise the grunt to really make the chassis come alive - and the sound behind you is fantastic!
On a similar theme, the GTM Libra and Spyder can take a VTEC engine.Not a kit car but a very worthy conversion - we've done one on a series 1 Elise and have a customer wanting us to do a series 2 car now.
Gives the Elise the grunt to really make the chassis come alive - and the sound behind you is fantastic!
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