eBay - scam or genuine?
eBay - scam or genuine?
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Bob Fossil

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954 posts

268 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Mods, please move this somewhere more suitable if I've picked the wrong place... thanks

Evening all

I'm selling a bike on eBay (it's a Trek carbon so is reasonably expensive), and I recieved an email from somebody with a new profile and zero feedback, asking if I could let their courier collect the bike as long as they paid upfront via PayPal, as they live in the South of France and so couldn't collect in person.

I responded saying I'd rather not, given that they had a new profile, zero feedback, etc etc - to which she then replied explaining how it was a new account as she was buying it as a present for her husband, and she had been using eBay under another ID (that she provided) for 6 years, with 100% feedback. The "old" ID seems genuine.

She seems happy to pay upfront via PayPal, and then for "her" courier to come and collect the bike once the payment has cleared from PayPal (i.e. once I have withdrawn the funds). She also asked whether I could end the auction early for a pre-agreed price (a bit naughty I guess, but I assume this goes on all the time).

So, does it seem like a scam or genuine? I'm new to selling via eBay (been buying for years) so don't want to let my bike go to some Ugandan con artist (for a start, it'd be rubbish on their roads...) - can a PayPal transaction be "reversed" like some Western Union-type transactions can be?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts

PeteG

4,278 posts

240 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Get her to send a message from the old account, confirming that it is hers...

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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If you have any doubts, walk.

Bob Fossil

Original Poster:

954 posts

268 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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PeteG said:
Get her to send a message from the old account, confirming that it is hers...
Great idea, thanks.

I'd thought of that myself, honest...

BarnatosGhost

34,072 posts

282 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Probably a scam.

Certainly don't let her pay by paypal, it'll be reversed within hours of you letting the bike go.

www.paypalsucks.com

I'd tell her that if the courier brings cash, happy days, otherwise, no thankyou.

Bob Fossil

Original Poster:

954 posts

268 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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I was leaning toward it being a scam - got 80-odd others watching and I've cleared the reserve price already with a decent-looking buyer (440+ feedback) so going to give it a swerve.

Thanks

Simpo Two

92,710 posts

294 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Might be genuine but is wide open to a chargeback. Can't she buy the bike in France?

Bank transfer might be a better option, but even they can clear payments then reverse them.

Oddly enough, Western Union would work - she sets it up and you collect real cash from the nearest agent (eg Thomas Cook). That way she takes all the risk, not you!

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 16th October 18:07

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Yep chargeback nightmare.

Walk away, what's better receiving £50 in cash less from someone in the UK or loosing the value of teh bike altogether?

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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If they arrange their own courier you can never prove to Paypal's satisfaction that they have received the item, so they would win a paypal chargeback.

jamoor

14,506 posts

244 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Might be genuine but is wide open to a chargeback. Can't she buy the bike in France?

Bank transfer might be a better option, but even they can clear payments then reverse them.

Oddly enough, Western Union would work - she sets it up and you collect real cash from the nearest agent (eg Thomas Cook). That way she takes all the risk, not you!

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 16th October 18:07
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Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

208 months

Friday 16th October 2009
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Is she fit??