535d Sport

[UncleM]

Hi,
Maybe as many as ten low mileage 535d Sports have been added to approved BMW stock recently. All around £36-40 area and all very similarly specc-ed. How much would be realistic to ask off the asking prices? Am thinking of swapping my E39 540i for one of them. Anyone done the same or is the more naturally thing to do is to swap for a 550i as I might miss the V8 too much?

Thanks.

[dxb335d]

Overall the E60 is a much better car then the E39. The only thing you will miss is the noise. The 535d is no petrol in the sound department, but does sound throaty under load. The sheer grunt you will enjoy. Its a torquey motor. Far from slow. Same HP as your 540i and lots more torque.

Test drive one and see what you think.

[4nonymous]

dxb335d said:

Overall the E60 is a much better car then the E39.

[CarbonM5]

UncleM said:

Hi,
Maybe as many as ten low mileage 535d Sports have been added to approved BMW stock recently. All around £36-40 area and all very similarly specc-ed. How much would be realistic to ask off the asking prices? Am thinking of swapping my E39 540i for one of them. Anyone done the same or is the more naturally thing to do is to swap for a 550i as I might miss the V8 too much?

Thanks.

You must go pertol,the diesels are horrid things once out of warranty,either go 545i or 550i manual.

Also the early E60's 04/05 are not a patch on build quality compared to an E39,the E60 interior leaves alot to be desired,only the 07 onward look half decent but I-drive is still hardwork but better than the E65.

[UncleM]

I had a short test drive in one today. Impressively quick and refined but maybe has too much sound insulation to cover diesel noises to be point of making the acceleration unexciting compared to the roar I've become accustomed to. The dealer won't really budge on price. 550i I've driven before and think would prefer but these 535d's appear to be good value. My 540i has been very reliable. Sounds like the 535d can be problematic later on in life. Could be a problem as I tend to keep my cars for many years. Have never driven a diesel before yet even own one. The dealer suggested diesel engines are more reliable. True?

[4nonymous]

UncleM said:

The dealer suggested diesel engines are more reliable. True?

bks

The petrols are less complicated and are more likely to be more reliable.

[Matt UK]

4nonymous said:

UncleM said:

The dealer suggested diesel engines are more reliable. True?

bks

The petrols are less complicated and are more likely to be more reliable.

The dealer answer may vary based on the car you are sitting in when you ask the question.

[adycav]

Matt UK said:

4nonymous said:

UncleM said:

The dealer suggested diesel engines are more reliable. True?

bks

The petrols are less complicated and are more likely to be more reliable.

The dealer answer may vary based on the car you are sitting in when you ask the question.

They do come out with some sh!te don't they.

The other day a salesbloke told me that a Porsche 996 was more reliable than a 993.

[UncleM]

Yes, maybe he was talking his book. He started by saying service intervals for diesels are longer. Is that BS as well?

[Matt UK]

Not sure about service intervals to be honest - ask him what the intervals spans are - they are likely to be variable depending on how you drive, so not sure how he thinks diesels have longer between services...

Old-school diesels were rugged, strong, slow and simple - hence why they are popular in a lot of industrial / commercial vehicles.

But the recent crop of 'fast and smooth' high-pressure, highly stressed units seem to have plenty of examples of components going pop. Hence why a lot of money nowadays says that petrol units may cost you more to run at the pumps, but they have more proven technology and less things to go wrong in the long run (5+ yrs / 100+k miles).

And IMHO, someone trying to sell you a car will sit on whatever side of the above fence is required in order to get you signing on the dotted line.

[Matt UK]

adycav said:

Matt UK said:

4nonymous said:

UncleM said:

The dealer suggested diesel engines are more reliable. True?

bks

The petrols are less complicated and are more likely to be more reliable.

The dealer answer may vary based on the car you are sitting in when you ask the question.

They do come out with some sh!te don't they.

The other day a salesbloke told me that a Porsche 996 was more reliable than a 993.

... and when hunting for an old Mk1 MX5 to use as track-shed, I called a dealer whose car was actually an auto. I quickly tried to end the call politely explaning that was not what I was looking for..
he started to argue furiously that the very rare and unloved auto was actually 'more sporty' as I could keep both hands on the wheel "like an F1 driver"... what a nobber

[crashS2K]

I was at a BMW dealership this w/e looking 535d's also and salesman inadvertently showed me the internal system they use to track the cars showing the trade-in price and the for sale price.

From what I can see, the average margin on the 2 used examples he showed me was £4K so there should be room to negotiate.

[dxb335d]

From what ive read, some members on here have run 535d well past 100k with no issues.

[adycav]

dxb335d said:

From what ive read, some members on here have run 535d well past 100k with no issues.

As long as they don't try to 'own M3s at the pod'.

[martin vr6]

Petrol Vs Diesel, tough call but as far as reliability issues are concerned, my friends father has a 545i with extended BMW warranty and has done for the 3 years he has owned it, I believe he totalled up his warranty claims for the 3 years and we are touching £14k none of which have been engine related

For the record I drove a 535d M sport with a tuning box type idea, and I was VERY impressed, it seemed to go better than the 545i my friends father has and that is no slouch either

TBH I think if any car is properly maintained and the warranty extended (foolish not to) I can't see you going far wrong with a 535d.

[4nonymous]

adycav said:

dxb335d said:

From what ive read, some members on here have run 535d well past 100k with no issues.

As long as they don't try to 'own M3s at the pod'.

Indeed

I can't believe DXB is in urban dictionary

Number 2

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dxb

[UncleM]

The dealer I spoke to offered to take £400 off which was nowhere near where I had in mind so walked away. He didn't call today which would suggests he's happy not to do the deal.

Given that there are so few 550i's compared to 535d's do you think in the long term, say 6+ years, the 550i may fetch the same?

[dibbly_dobbler]

4nonymous said:

adycav said:

dxb335d said:

From what ive read, some members on here have run 535d well past 100k with no issues.

As long as they don't try to 'own M3s at the pod'.

Indeed

I can't believe DXB is in urban dictionary

Number 2

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dxb

Now that is funny !

[adycav]

dibbly_dobbler said:

4nonymous said:

adycav said:

dxb335d said:

From what ive read, some members on here have run 535d well past 100k with no issues.

As long as they don't try to 'own M3s at the pod'.

Indeed

I can't believe DXB is in urban dictionary

Number 2

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dxb

Brilliant, this is going in the GG, it's a waste otherwise!
Now that is funny !