Project lights HID upgrade kit (help)
Project lights HID upgrade kit (help)
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davidd

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6,713 posts

314 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Morning,

So, new car great, new car headlamps are pants (well dip are, I've not tried main yet). It has the pod lights..

I know some folks have upgraded these to hid, can anyone recommend a good kit please?

Cheers

D

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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You're going to get a few replies telling you not to do it because it's illegal, that you'll dazzle on coming road users, that you're a selfish road user, and that you should be shot for even contemplating it, ...blah blah blah.......Ignore them, if you want to be able to see clearly at night, get a set fitted. I have the old/original single lamps on my car,and with the HID kit on they make a massive difference, a huge difference. I have passed 2 MOT's, and have never been flashed by anyone for dazzling oncoming traffic, if I thought they were a hazzard to other users, I would'nt even contemplate fitting them.
They are easy - but like anything on a TVR, fiddly - to fit. I fitted my ballasts behind the headlights, 2 holes drilled through to the inner wing in the engine bay. HIDS4U may not be the cheapest, you can get kits on eBay for silly prices, but they are a quality kit, and if anything goes wrong they are backed up by a first class service.

HIDS4U - These are what I have, expensive but you know they will work.
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h4-bi-xenon-pro-plus-hid-x...

Ebay Cheap as Chips - should be fine, but who knows...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H4-9003-Bi-Xenon-Hi-Lo-HID-C...

Take your pick smile


Edited by JensenA on Sunday 18th October 15:30

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Totally agree don't buy them anywhere other than ebay. Silly prices charged in this country claiming they're specially adapted etc etc, they're all the same kit. TVRs don't have fancy electronics that the HID ballasts can intefere with so no issues. I bought mine from Hong Kong and they arrived within the week.

Dave_M

5,486 posts

254 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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What sort of price are they?

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

314 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Thanks for that, do you mean you fitted the ballast i the hatch on the inside of the wing?

Also I had a feeling that the projector bulbs use h7, am I dreaming?

Thanks


D

sk7ine man

604 posts

221 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Totally agree. I have had them on 3 of my previous cars (non-tvrs) made a massive difference and no MOT issues at all. However, they work better with projecter type headlamps than reflector tyoe where they can dazzle oncoming traffic and look sh*te imho.

Rufus Roughcut

535 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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sk7ine man said:
Totally agree. I have had them on 3 of my previous cars (non-tvrs) made a massive difference and no MOT issues at all. However, they work better with projecter type headlamps than reflector tyoe where they can dazzle oncoming traffic and look sh*te imho.
Yep, I run Hids on the bike (And soon to be on the Cerb) and found the projector high beam to be pencil sharp but the dip to "scatter the light" hids4u do/did a masked unit and was only a few quid more than the standard bulb.
Anyone in doubt it could be worth giving then a shout.

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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2 things to consider: 1) watch the light temperature you're being sold 2) OEM HIDs have a different light lens as the beam distribution is different

Rufus Roughcut

535 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Podie said:
2 things to consider: 1) watch the light temperature you're being sold 2) OEM HIDs have a different light lens as the beam distribution is different
Yep again smile Focal length and colour temp vary greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer.
My last bulb had a colour temp of 6k, it was white with a hint of blue, it lasted 3 years ( lights are on continuously with later bikes) before it started to flash.
The new one I bought is also a 6K and is pure white.....

ro_butler

795 posts

301 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Don't worry, most of the pod style cerb headlights I have have seen are projector type for the dipped beam so no probs fitting HIDs for these.
I left the main beam as normal halogen as the HID's don't always come up to full brightness immediately so are pretty useless as main beams.

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

314 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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ro_butler said:
Don't worry, most of the pod style cerb headlights I have have seen are projector type for the dipped beam so no probs fitting HIDs for these.
I left the main beam as normal halogen as the HID's don't always come up to full brightness immediately so are pretty useless as main beams.
So pod dipped, h4 or h7 ?

Sorry to be a muppet!

D

Dave 500

7,882 posts

272 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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H7 smile

davidd

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6,713 posts

314 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Mega thanks, I'll take a look at the control box at some point over the next week, they must be broken as well as rubbish.
Then I'll get an H7 kit and take my life in my hand whilst I fit it!

There used to be a chap on here who sold hid kits, does anyone know if he is still about?

Cheers

D

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Here you go as an example,

HID on ebay

Nefarious

989 posts

295 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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JensenA said:
You're going to get a few replies telling you not to do it because it's illegal, that you'll dazzle on coming road users, that you're a selfish road user, and that you should be shot for even contemplating it, ...blah blah blah.......Ignore them, if you want to be able to see clearly at night, get a set fitted. I have the old/original single lamps on my car,and with the HID kit on they make a massive difference, a huge difference. I have passed 2 MOT's, and have never been flashed by anyone for dazzling oncoming traffic, if I thought they were a hazzard to other users, I would'nt even contemplate fitting them.
They are easy - but like anything on a TVR, fiddly - to fit. I fitted my ballasts behind the headlights, 2 holes drilled through to the inner wing in the engine bay. HIDS4U may not be the cheapest, you can get kits on eBay for silly prices, but they are a quality kit, and if anything goes wrong they are backed up by a first class service.
Where did you mount the control unit (assuming you've got a hi/lo kit)?
Did you run the earths right back to the battery, or just earth to the chassis?

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I used the HIDS4U units, expensive but godd and you know they will be the correct output, temperature etc etc.

I mounted the ballast units on the inner inside of the front wing, up near the Headlights.

Mount the ballast units
Take the old Bulb out.
Fit the new HID Bulb - The new HID bulb has a wiring loom with 3 male connectors in it, ie it mirrors the old H4 bulb, so your existing plug that normally goes into the bulb, plugs into the input side of the Ballast unit. The output side of the ballast unit has a multi-pin plug that connects to the new HID Bulbs.

It's that easy, - no earthing required.

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

314 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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JensenA said:
I used the HIDS4U units, expensive but godd and you know they will be the correct output, temperature etc etc.

I mounted the ballast units on the inner inside of the front wing, up near the Headlights.

Mount the ballast units
Take the old Bulb out.
Fit the new HID Bulb - The new HID bulb has a wiring loom with 3 male connectors in it, ie it mirrors the old H4 bulb, so your existing plug that normally goes into the bulb, plugs into the input side of the Ballast unit. The output side of the ballast unit has a multi-pin plug that connects to the new HID Bulbs.

It's that easy, - no earthing required.
Did you go for a 35w or 55w kit? Normal or slim option?

Cheers

D

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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David - I went for the 55w version - I got mine 2 years ago (It cost me £249 back then!). I;m not sure if it was slim or normal, I think normal, but theres plenty of room up there to mount the unit anyway - at least there is with the standard single headlight, not sure about the twin light models.

davidd

Original Poster:

6,713 posts

314 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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JensenA said:
David - I went for the 55w version - I got mine 2 years ago (It cost me £249 back then!). I;m not sure if it was slim or normal, I think normal, but theres plenty of room up there to mount the unit anyway - at least there is with the standard single headlight, not sure about the twin light models.
Excellent, no issues with overheating on the 55w?

cheers

D

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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davidd said:
JensenA said:
David - I went for the 55w version - I got mine 2 years ago (It cost me £249 back then!). I;m not sure if it was slim or normal, I think normal, but theres plenty of room up there to mount the unit anyway - at least there is with the standard single headlight, not sure about the twin light models.
Excellent, no issues with overheating on the 55w?

cheers

D
I've had no problems at all with mine - I think you need the H7 version on yours. If do you need to modify theg modifi so that the dipped beams stay on when you switch to main beam.