Sash windows

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Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

240 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Chaps,

What is more cost efficient, renovating old sash windows or replacing with new units?

To be specific, renovate and fit double glazed glass (is this possible, I've seen very thin panels) or fit new double glazed units (wood in the original style, not modern looking units).

I suppose the other consideration is efficiency, new units would have much better seals? (unless as part of renovating it's possible to fit better seals?)

GregE240

10,857 posts

268 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Welcome to my world, Duke.

Recently bought a Grade II listed building with painted up sash windows. Have found a company called "Ventrolla" who will do effectively a bare metal respray on them, but at a price. Also fit better seals as part of the deal.

Just need to save up now frown

I've done some research on them and they come very highly praised. But, like I said, at a cost.

Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

240 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Thanks, I'll give them a bell - I have, from memory, 30 windows to replace. The bigs ones are about 6 foot high so I'm pretty much going to have to grab my ankles. It's not listed though, good luck with all that business, you're a braver man than I smile

apguy

824 posts

249 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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I have some experiance of this, as I am refurbishing my house with 27 sash windows, all of which were non-operative, painted shut and secondary double glazing installed. I'm in a conservation area as well.

I had to have 3 sash windows remade, and for a 36" x 40" window I paid £1400 (including single glaze in agricultural glass), I have since found a cheaper 1-man band and paid £800 each for 2 slightly smaller ones.

I got Ventrolla to quote for refurbishment of the remainder and almost had a heart-attack. I subsequently contacted local conservation office who gave me the name of 2 local firms. I ended up paying £200 per window for:

- Stripe out existing sashes
- Burn back facing wood and re-prime
- Remove old putty and re-putty each pane
- install new cords and reweight as necessary
- Install brush strips (essential for draught and noise proofing)
- Replace 3 glass panels (as cracked)
- Install 2 etched glass panels (for bathrooms)

It took 1 man 4 weeks to complete, they now all work perfectly. So my recommendation is to speak to the local council/conservation office and see who they suggest. Unless of course you are in Suffolk, and I can recommend someone.

GregE240

10,857 posts

268 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Thats a really good idea apguy - I'll do that.

Many thanks!

(must admit Ventrolla had the same effect on me)

schmokin1

1,212 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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A good friend of mine has a sash window restoration company in Kingston, Surrey. If you are close and would like his details, feel free to PM me.

Cheers
Schmo

Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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schmokin1 said:
A good friend of mine has a sash window restoration company in Kingston, Surrey. If you are close and would like his details, feel free to PM me.

Cheers
Schmo
Would he travel to the Cotswolds? (trying to get a range of quotes)

Bill

52,843 posts

256 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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We've used these guys: http://www.sashwindowsbristol.com/ in both our current and previous houses. They were very good, but not (as you're findingsmile cheap.

Wings

5,815 posts

216 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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GregE240 said:
Thats a really good idea apguy - I'll do that.

Many thanks!

(must admit Ventrolla had the same effect on me)
+1 and on me, they quoted me £12k, I had to sit down on receipt of their quote. Now getting quotes from local recommended tradesman.

schmokin1

1,212 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st October 2009
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Duke Thrust said:
schmokin1 said:
A good friend of mine has a sash window restoration company in Kingston, Surrey. If you are close and would like his details, feel free to PM me.

Cheers
Schmo
Would he travel to the Cotswolds? (trying to get a range of quotes)
I've asked but I suspect not as he is snowed under with work, get back to you in a day or two.

Cheers
schmo

schmokin1

1,212 posts

213 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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Duke you are too far away I'm afraid, good luck with the job
cheers
schmo

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

246 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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I have a man Dukey...

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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I live in a Victorian semi, with a massive FIVE windows! Two of which are recent (70's) crittle windows, yuk.

I would like to keep the sash windows as mine is the only house, in a row of eight, that still has them. All the rest have upvc double glazing in various disasterous states!

My q is, can double glazed units be fitted to original sash windows?

Eta I'm in Suffolk

Edited by GTIR on Tuesday 27th October 11:35

Bill

52,843 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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GTIR said:
My q is, can double glazed units be fitted to original sash windows?
Yep. Either to your original sashes or to new replacements.

Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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schmokin1 said:
Duke you are too far away I'm afraid, good luck with the job
cheers
schmo
Thanks for asking chap.


RedLeicester said:
I have a man Dukey...
Ah, your mail makes sense now smile

TooLateForAName

4,757 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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