Is it me, or is Trulli losing it?
Is it me, or is Trulli losing it?
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IforB

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9,840 posts

258 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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First off, we have Trulli going tonto over his accident with Sutil, even though it was blatantly his fault or to be charitable a "racing incident", now he's banging about how there is only "one person who wants him out of F1." That person being John Howett, the Toyota team boss...

I have a feeling this is the last we'll see of Trulli in an F1 car.

Project 644

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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As I said in the Kobayashi thread. Hopefully Howett will have Glock back for Abu Dhabi and hopefully he will keep Kobayashi in the other car.

Trulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.

matt frost

783 posts

280 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Seeing somebody go as crazy as Trulli did to Sutil I thought Sutil must have done something very bad, and I hadn't seen it until the replay afterwards. When I saw the replay I couldn't believe such an experienced driver had it so wrong.

Madman. I hope Koby gets a drive next year. Trulli has had his chances and can easily be replaced.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.
yes +1.

As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.

Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once! biglaugh

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.
yes +1.

As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.

Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once! biglaugh
Trulli is Italian?!

Ralf Rockefeller

1,597 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Sutil, in my mind, is getting labelled as clumsy which I think is unfair.

Bar his Singapore spin & crash, I think he has drove fantastic this year.

As for Trulli, he is the younger version of Fisi. Both are well past it.

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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fivesixseven8 said:
4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.
yes +1.

As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.

Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once! biglaugh
Trulli is Italian?!
You're right! paperbag, I've no idea what the hell I was thinking there! (Goes off to read the the profiles of all the drivers getmecoat)

130R

7,080 posts

235 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Trulli has still been better than Glock this season, however I would assume Toyota think that Glock will improve whereas Trulli won't. Kobayashi is unlikely to score as many points as either of them should he get a drive next season but being Japanese will not hurt his chances any given the obvious marketing benefits.

cragswinter

21,429 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Reminds me of James hunt getting mario Andretti by the throught & explaining "in formula 1 we don't overtake on the outside!" marios response? " where I come from we overtake on the inside,outside any damn place we like!"
sutil was put off by Kimi lifting & therefore truli got the jump but no matter what track you're on you've gotta expect the car in front to drift wide at the exit! Racing incident plain & simple & no more.
If trulli had made it stick he would of looked great but he didn't, & ended up looking like a tt!

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Project 644 said:
As I said in the Kobayashi thread. Hopefully Howett will have Glock back for Abu Dhabi and hopefully he will keep Kobayashi in the other car.

Trulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
if you believe the pr, it's not really up to howett if glock comes back - it's down to how quickly he heals from his (admittedly strange) injury

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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skinny said:
Project 644 said:
As I said in the Kobayashi thread. Hopefully Howett will have Glock back for Abu Dhabi and hopefully he will keep Kobayashi in the other car.

Trulli is past it. He might get a drive next year with another team, but it will only be one of the new ones.
if you believe the pr, it's not really up to howett if glock comes back - it's down to how quickly he heals from his (admittedly strange) injury
It all seems a bit fishy anyway. Kobayashi drives on Friday as Timmo has a cold. Then Timmo is back in and give Toyota an excuse to get him out for the rest of the season. Cynical, me?!

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Trulli is feeling threatened. His place at Toyota is under attack from Kobayashi, Raikkonen, or some other hitherto unknown driver. His comparative performance against Glock has not been decisively better for two consecutive seasons despite his vastly greater experience.

He can't blame himself for the incident, because it will make him look even worse than he was before. So in a fit of frustrated rage, he blames Sutil and cannot back out of it even if he wants to.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
4rephill said:
fivesixseven8 said:
Get Karter said:
Has anyone seen Trulli's onboard from before the corner?

I don't think one can make judgements based on what we saw on the TV pics at the time, as Trulli was already over the exit kerbing when he came into view.

I reckon he feels strongly that he was forced off the circuit by the Force India.

I will remain neutral until I see the incident from the start.....and not just the second half of it.
Sutil was compromised by Kimi backing off though. Sutil would have been looking at that rather than his mirrors and Trulli should have seen it too. If he had then he may have re-thought going round the outside.
yes +1.

As for Trulli being forced off the track, any racing driver knows that on a corner like that, the car ahead is always going to run to the outside. Sutil wouldn't have expected anyone to try overtaking round the outside there, with or without Kimi being present.

Mind you, it made a change seeing the French attack ths Germans for once! biglaugh
Trulli is Italian?!
You're right! paperbag, I've no idea what the hell I was thinking there! (Goes off to read the the profiles of all the drivers getmecoat)
In your defence, he does come across very French. smile

phatgixer

4,988 posts

278 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Losing it? He never had it! Look at the plank!



He can produce a stunning lap but never strings it all together. How many times have we seen Trulli finish around 10th, yet set fastest lap? If I were a team owner I would be furious.

Edited by phatgixer on Tuesday 20th October 18:36

fivesixseven8

6,146 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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phatgixer said:
Losing it? He ever had it.



He can produce a stunning lap but never strings it all together. How many times have we seen Trulli finish around 10th, yet set fastest lap? If I were a team owner I would be furious.

Edited by phatgixer on Tuesday 20th October 18:35
+1, I cannot understand how the "journeymen" keep their drives when there must be plenty of new blood that can bring the £££ with them. Better the devil you know I guess?

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I think he's been drinking a little too much of his own wine hehe