Positive descrimination....

[JCB123]

So, the BBC were told they had to employ someone over 50 to read the news. Which to me sounds like they're going to have to employ someone based on their age, not their ability/suitability.

Positive descrimination? I think so...

Then the BNP were told they had to have non-white members, or risk being accused of racsim. So they have to actively recruit people based on their creed/colour, not on the merits they could bring to the party.

Positive descrimination? I think so...


When will do-gooders realise that by making a point of being equal, you are being racist/sexist/agist etc...i.e. you are admitting that that person is different!

Rant over - anyone else think of any more examples of this?

[JCB123]

OK - wrong terminology, but you know what I meant.....

[JCB123]

anonymous said:

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The women that get those seats must feel great - "I'm here soley because I am not a man!"

[BoRED S2upid]

Guaranteed an interview because you have a disability. So because I don't have a disability I don't get an interview.

[rhinochopig]

BoRED S2upid said:

Guaranteed an interview because you have a disability. So because I don't have a disability I don't get an interview.

Well you are in some respects because your disability is your ability. You are disabled, when compared to someone with a disability, at job interviews

[G_T]

JCB123 said:

Rant over - anyone else think of any more examples of this?

Police
Fire fighters

I think the question is whether the ends justify the means though. If positive descrimination ultimately leads to the services carrying out of a better job (which it could very well in the police) then despite it being unfair on an individual level it could still be a good thing.

Although to be fair I still fail to see how a black, female, homosexual firefighter could possibly be any better at her job than a stronger candidate who does not fall into any minority groups.

[Ganglandboss]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-237...
According to this article the BBC are being told the opposite. It sounds like they are trying to make up for axing Moira Stuart and that bint with the annoyig voice off 'Strictly Come Dirty X Factor on Ice' (or whatever it is called).

Positive discrimination is still something you see a lot of and it needs to be stopped. When I started as an apprentice, my employer sent me to a private engineering training centre for the first 9 months of my apprenticeship. There is a large multinational pharmaceutical company who had about 10 trainees there. One of them was a girl and she was fking useless. TBH, a lot of the lads were but most had private educations and good GCSEs (but no common sense whatsoever). She failed everything but because they had a policy stating they must always have at least one female engineering trainee, she was guaranteed the job as she was the only female applicant and the only female trainee they had was due to come out of her time as she started.

My employer was a university and several years later, there was an article in the newsletter with the headline 'The University of XXXX to Employ More Senior Staff From Minority Backgrounds'. The university employed st loads of overseas profs and was more diverse than a friggin' Benetton advert. He spoke in his article about a meeting he attended with senior staff (he was a Pro-Vice Chancellor himself) which seemed to suggest it was like walking into the AGM of the Ku Klux Klan.

[jeff m]

Pos descrimination is alive and well in the US.
A black guy I know had a peice of heavy equipment reappear in his yard.
I asked him where it had been, I assumed he had sold it.
He told me he had it leased to a Gov dept.
I asked him if pink people could do that (I know him quite well)

He laughed and said "I'm only one step on the ladder above you"
"In front of me are all the xxxxxxx women, all the Indians and the xxxxxxx eskimos."
He went on to tell me he created a new corp in his wifes name who had registered as 1 part in 50 native american Indian. He then applied for any Federal contracts that were set aside for minorities. (Or were minorities have to be given a bite)

[HiRich]

JCB123 said:

So, the BBC were told they had to employ someone over 50 to read the news. Which to me sounds like they're going to have to employ someone based on their age, not their ability/suitability.

Positive descrimination? I think so...

Or you might say that the BBC have been caught employing people based on their age, not their ability/suitability by employing firm-breasted popsies and general fkwits far less capable of presenting the news than well-proven older newscasters such as Moira Stuart.
I would rather have the news read by someone who speaks with gravitas, and capable of conducting a proper interview. Eye candy would be a bonus, but hardly essential.

[Don]

Singapore Airlines have a positive discrimination policy. They positively discriminate in favour of drop dead gorgeous twenty something young women.

Frankly, it's fking great.

[Bill]

HiRich said:

JCB123 said:

So, the BBC were told they had to employ someone over 50 to read the news. Which to me sounds like they're going to have to employ someone based on their age, not their ability/suitability.

Positive descrimination? I think so...

Or you might say that the BBC have been caught employing people based on their age, not their ability/suitability by employing firm-breasted popsies and general fkwits far less capable of presenting the news than well-proven older newscasters such as Moira Stuart.
I would rather have the news read by someone who speaks with gravitas, and capable of conducting a proper interview. Eye candy would be a bonus, but hardly essential.

Precisely. Neither of the OP's points are positive discrimination, as both are simply examples of people being told they're not allowed to discriminate any more.

[voyds9]

I feel like a minority, white working male. There can't be that many of us.

I'm certainly discriminated against, I have to get everything on my merits.