Garden Inspection Chamber help
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Hi,
Our extension is now complete but the council are now insisting on having a bloody inspection chamber installed in the garden; this means having to ruin our nice driveway, dig a massive manhole and find the joint (wherever that is)
The problem I have is that this is going to cost more than we have contracted with the builder and to be honest not something I can afford as our project has gone a bit over budget anyhow.
Yorkshire Water seem to think that our drainage leads directly out, as does the neighbours, so I don't see why a IC is needed as none of drainage connected or is this a fairly normal practice?
I guess I'm going to fight this with them but before I do; can anyone let me know where do I stand if I refuse to install the IC and what implications will there be? I'm assuming the completion certificate won't be given so without this can the building control enforce anything else?
Sorry for the million questions; I'm in unknown territory and need some solid expertise.
As always on PH; thanks in advance
Cheers
Our extension is now complete but the council are now insisting on having a bloody inspection chamber installed in the garden; this means having to ruin our nice driveway, dig a massive manhole and find the joint (wherever that is)
The problem I have is that this is going to cost more than we have contracted with the builder and to be honest not something I can afford as our project has gone a bit over budget anyhow.
Yorkshire Water seem to think that our drainage leads directly out, as does the neighbours, so I don't see why a IC is needed as none of drainage connected or is this a fairly normal practice?
I guess I'm going to fight this with them but before I do; can anyone let me know where do I stand if I refuse to install the IC and what implications will there be? I'm assuming the completion certificate won't be given so without this can the building control enforce anything else?
Sorry for the million questions; I'm in unknown territory and need some solid expertise.
As always on PH; thanks in advance
Cheers
A few assumptions about things missing from your post to start off with.
I assumme you are having something like an extension built or are installing additional sanitary appliances that need a new drain connection. I also assumme that you are in a terrace or row of semis.
The need for an ic is triggered by the need to access the drains for maintenance and clearing. Building Control wouldn't normally be asking for one unless it was required. They would normally be positioned at points where drainage connections took place, but can be at simple changes in direction.
You should question how you would have someone rod your drains without the requested manhole or ic.
I'm starting to waffle a bit now, more specific information on your situation and I'd be happy to comment.
I assumme you are having something like an extension built or are installing additional sanitary appliances that need a new drain connection. I also assumme that you are in a terrace or row of semis.
The need for an ic is triggered by the need to access the drains for maintenance and clearing. Building Control wouldn't normally be asking for one unless it was required. They would normally be positioned at points where drainage connections took place, but can be at simple changes in direction.
You should question how you would have someone rod your drains without the requested manhole or ic.
I'm starting to waffle a bit now, more specific information on your situation and I'd be happy to comment.
silverthorn2151 said:
A few assumptions about things missing from your post to start off with.
I assumme you are having something like an extension built or are installing additional sanitary appliances that need a new drain connection.
I also assumme that you are in a terrace or row of semis.
Sorry mate; should have mentioned this.I assumme you are having something like an extension built or are installing additional sanitary appliances that need a new drain connection.
I also assumme that you are in a terrace or row of semis.
Yes; just extended the kitchen and we are in a row of terrace houses.
As for the drainage; we've only changed the gully by a foot to accomodate the new structure; everything else is the same - so not too sure on the direction change (if you can call it that)
Can it be a case that most terrace houses have their drainage linked hence the need for a IC? Or is that just a supid assumption :-D
The Yorkshise Water fella thinks all the drainage leads out via individual house.
Cheers
That helps a bit.
It would be rather unusual for each house to have a seperate main drainage connection. Typically a drain would run parallel to the back wall picking up connections from each house, with a connection to the public sewer every few houses. I am speaking mostly from experience in the south east but have no reason to think it's different oop norf.
If all you have done is move a gully then it difficult to understand how Building Control might think that an ic is required. If you have installed a new drain run that is connecting to the system then at the point of connection would normally be at a chamber. If you have replaced the gully with a new one, is it a roddable type? Does the replacement gully have a new drain run to serve it.
It's such a difficult thing to be certain about without actually seeing it. I would be inclined to speak to the Building Control Officer and ask him to explain the reason for the requirement. If you in turn ask what the alternatives are he may be able to offer something more palatable.
The cost of ic's will vary dependant on size etc. There is a minimum internal size dependant on the depth and so on.
Sorry I can't be more definate at the moment, but any more info and I'll be happy to comment.
It would be rather unusual for each house to have a seperate main drainage connection. Typically a drain would run parallel to the back wall picking up connections from each house, with a connection to the public sewer every few houses. I am speaking mostly from experience in the south east but have no reason to think it's different oop norf.
If all you have done is move a gully then it difficult to understand how Building Control might think that an ic is required. If you have installed a new drain run that is connecting to the system then at the point of connection would normally be at a chamber. If you have replaced the gully with a new one, is it a roddable type? Does the replacement gully have a new drain run to serve it.
It's such a difficult thing to be certain about without actually seeing it. I would be inclined to speak to the Building Control Officer and ask him to explain the reason for the requirement. If you in turn ask what the alternatives are he may be able to offer something more palatable.
The cost of ic's will vary dependant on size etc. There is a minimum internal size dependant on the depth and so on.
Sorry I can't be more definate at the moment, but any more info and I'll be happy to comment.
Yes, the new gully is a roddable type - exactly how yorkshire water wanted it to be.
The only part of the drain that has changed is where the original drain came down the side of the house, it now runs over the new kitchen and out and down the side of the new kitchen structure - where the drain runs to ground is where the new roddable gully has been put in; in effect moving the gully by a foot to accomodate this.
Hope this makes sense
So we haven't really don't much to it other than re-angle it; the length of the old drain compared to the new one is pretty much the same.
The only part of the drain that has changed is where the original drain came down the side of the house, it now runs over the new kitchen and out and down the side of the new kitchen structure - where the drain runs to ground is where the new roddable gully has been put in; in effect moving the gully by a foot to accomodate this.
Hope this makes sense
So we haven't really don't much to it other than re-angle it; the length of the old drain compared to the new one is pretty much the same.
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